first cycle

[allout13]

age: 25
height: 5' 10
weight: 197

for my first cycle im gonna use test e 500mg/wk for 12 weeks.

should i inject it all at once, or split it up into 2 250mg injections. if i split them up can i do them both at the same time? and if its 1 injection a week should i still alternate injection spots?

i was going to use 23ga 1.5 needles for the deltoid shots and 25ga 1 needles for the thigh shots (if i have to)

and nolvadex for 16 weeks at 10mg/day during the cycle and 20mg/day for my pct good?

[Amorphic]

the cycle is fine.

injections are to be done every 3.5 days. so yes 250 every 3.5 days. always rotate sites. (glutes, quads, delts etc)

i would improve the pct a little. nolva alone isnt very good. perhaps some aromasin. or hcg.

[Kale]

age: 25
height: 5' 10
weight: 197

for my first cycle im gonna use test e 500mg/wk for 12 weeks.

should i inject it all at once, or split it up into 2 250mg injections. if i split them up can i do them both at the same time? and if its 1 injection a week should i still alternate injection spots?

i was going to use 23ga 1.5 needles for the deltoid shots and 25ga 1 needles for the thigh shots (if i have to)

and nolvadex for 16 weeks at 10mg/day during the cycle and 20mg/day for my pct good?

Twice a week is better and rotate the sites.

And its better to use 5/8" for the Delts and 1" for the quads. Save the Nolvadex for PCT you probably wont need it for the cycle, just keep it on hand in case of gyno sides.

[allout13]

So start with nolvadex 20mg/day a week after the cycle ends? what else should i add to my pct?

[Johny-too-small]

Start pct 2 weeks after last injection. Id add an AI to pct and run it 4-6 weeks.

[allout13]

so alternate between delts and thigh every 3.5 days inject 250 mg.
pct is novadex and (any suggestions) started 2 weeks after cycle ends for 5 weeks

[Cun0144]

So delete

[CheddaNips]

ya i just did my first shot with a 25g 5/8in in my delt and it was painless. 23g 1.5in is a glute shot

[topnotch]

no need for the nolva during cycle, unless you start getting sensitive nips or signs of gyno...what is your b/f% by the way?

[topnotch]

myself, i like 1 inch for delts and use 1.5" for glutes and quads...on quads i leave it out about a 1/4'' though

[Johny-too-small]

so he'll need Nolva + aromasin for pCT? cant he just go with nolva while hes on cycle in case of gyno and for pct juts go with clomid?

Why would you do this? Explain please.

[luckylou]

My PCT for Test E Iran 12 WK/Cycle as Follows:

I just took turns in each butt Cheek, (Mon/Thur.) 23 G x 1 1/2" and eveything was fine.

Week 1/4 Nolvadex 20/mgs/Day
Week 1/4 Aromasin 25 mgs/Day
Week 1/4 Vitamin E 1000 iu/day

I did not run any HCG, The above PCT was fine for me.

As for HCG, Some people like HCG for pct some dont. Its up to you.

Peace Out.

[Cun0144]

So delete

[allout13]

i am about to order the gear and just need to make sure. so 25 ga 5/8 needles for the delts and 25 ga 1 needles for the quad?

keep nolvadex on hand in case of gyno signs and if signs appear use 20mg/day until they go away?

pct: nolvadex 20mg/day for 4 weeks
clomid therapy

does all this sound good?

[allout13]

clomid therapy would be 100mg/day

[Johny-too-small]

I was asking a question, not telling him to do that. You stated he needed nolva(serm) + a AI so i was asking if he should take aromasin with nolva during pct. But instead of nolva+AI ive read that you can just take clomid and tht would suffice during PCT.

No, not a good pct.

[Amorphic]

i am about to order the gear and just need to make sure. so 25 ga 5/8 needles for the delts and 25 ga 1 needles for the quad?

keep nolvadex on hand in case of gyno signs and if signs appear use 20mg/day until they go away?

pct: nolvadex 20mg/day for 4 weeks
clomid therapy

does all this sound good?

get some aromasin as well for the pct

[ironaddict69]

the cycle is fine.

injections are to be done every 3.5 days. so yes 250 every 3.5 days. always rotate sites. (glutes, quads, delts etc)

i would improve the pct a little. nolva alone isnt very good. perhaps some aromasin. or hcg.

Omg I thought you were the thread starter I was like: YES-HES COMING TO THE DARK SIDE!

[Amorphic]

Omg I thought you were the thread starter I was like: YES-HES COMING TO THE DARK SIDE!

soon bro

[allout13]

could i do without the aromasin?

[Johny-too-small]

could i do without the aromasin?

Of course, you can also do w/o pct...
It all comes down to protecting your gains and recovering your HPTA asap.

[allout13]

you think i will lose to much of my gains if i dont do it?

[Johny-too-small]

you think i will lose to much of my gains if i dont do it?

Listen brother, you get out of it what you put in it. You want to do things right, then do it right.

We've given you solid advice on the subject and you continue to grovel about it. If you dont want to do something then dont do it.

[Amorphic]

Listen brother, you get out of it what you put in it. You want to do things right, then do it right.

We've given you solid advice on the subject and you continue to grovel about it. If you dont want to do something then dont do it.

take his advice, he knows what hes talking about.

pct is incredibly important. you dont want to skimp out on it just because you dont feel "x" compound is worth your time. you will lose almost all your gains without a solid pct

[allout13]

thanks... also its kinda off topic but how do you pm someone.
sorry if its a stupid question but i cant figure it out

[Amorphic]

click on their name and view their profile. you'll see the option to send a private message

[allout13]

thanks

[allout13]

it says i cant do it with my account

[bigdog123]

you need to be a memeber for 45 days /100 posts ... read the rules !!

[Big]

you need to be a memeber for 45 days /100 posts ... read the rules !!

That's for source checks. Members should be able to pm after 25 posts, but several members have been having problems with this lately.

[allout13]

thank you for the back up ima******ger. thats what i thought but it still isnt working.

[Big]

thank you for the back up ima******ger. thats what i thought but it still isnt working.

go to the "one on one with the staff" section and post a thread there that you can't pm, admin will help when they get time.

[allout13]

thanks