TREN Cycle: 3rd Cycle

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11-13-2007, 10:19 PM
axemurderer187

TREN Cycle: 3rd Cycle

I have 2 cycles under my belt. Both successful. Always room from improvement. Never tried Tren before, what better time to start then now.

Stats:

5'7 155lbs
30yrs 8% body fat
trainig hardcore for about 4 yrs

I've never tried Tren before so this will be my first time. Well aware of sides and risks. Cycle will look something like this; unsure on how much test to take and frequency of dosages.

1-4: dbol 50mg ED

1-12: tren A 75mg ED

1-12: test cyp or enan: (need suggestions for dosages and days here)

1-PCT: .5mg armidex ED

PCT: Clomid + Nolvadex therapy

Since I'm already really really low in bf% obviously I'm looking for a lean mass bulk cycle. I plan on drinking LOTS of water durring this cycle and a clean high calorie diet. Open for any opinions suggestion that will improve my next cycle.

Also: since I want this to be a major bulk cycle could I add deca or EQ to this.

Thanks guys.

axe M-
11-13-2007, 10:24 PM
Kratos

looks fine
some people will say drop the tren 2 weeks earlier but up to you
switch out arimidex for aromasin in pct
you could drop clomid
11-13-2007, 10:25 PM
axemurderer187

can you please offer your opinions to my questions about test dosages and whether or not I can/should stack deca or EQ. Thanks bro. Also, whats the deal with switching the armidex to aromasin? Never heard that before.
11-13-2007, 10:28 PM
Brent_G

Dont stack eq/deca. Tren will suffice nicely. Id personally drop the dbol. Tren will kick in fast enough that you wont really need the "kickstart"

Test dosage most people run at 500mg a week.

I like 250 a week. keeps the sides a little lower and less bloat.

But thats up to you.
11-13-2007, 10:30 PM
Kratos

300mg of test is all you would need
I wouldn't stack anything else but masteron is a good partner for tren if you are looking to add something
have caber on hand if you can
11-13-2007, 10:32 PM
axemurderer187

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brent_G

Dont stack eq/deca. Tren will suffice nicely. Id personally drop the dbol. Tren will kick in fast enough that you wont really need the "kickstart"

Test dosage most people run at 500mg a week.

I like 250 a week. keeps the sides a little lower and less bloat.

But thats up to you.

I've never done a cycle under 400mgs of test so I think I would go with the 500mgs.

I really don't get bloated from test alone. Deca makes me bloated as fuk. Shouldn't the armidex dry me out nicely?
11-13-2007, 10:34 PM
axemurderer187

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kratos

300mg of test is all you would need
I wouldn't stack anything else but masteron is a good partner for tren if you are looking to add something
have caber on hand if you can

i've thought of adding mast. I'll look into that. I had good results w/deca and that's why i was asking. I'll just look into masteron if anything. What is caber? I've read tren cycles mentioning this but don't really know what it is...
11-13-2007, 10:34 PM
InsaneInTheMembrane

The cycle is fine. As for test, it is up to you. If you want to really see the effects of tren alone but not want your libido to suffer then a small dosage of 2-300mg/wk will do, but if you want a mass stack, then up to 600mg/wk is good too BUT watch your estrogen because with dbol and high test that can aromatize and progesteronic tren, you run the risk of fina gyno...so do keep letro and bromo (or caber) on hand in case. Arimidex usage should prevent this for the most part.

I would definitely incorporate hcg into your PCT... these 3 compounds will shut you down pretty hard.
11-13-2007, 10:40 PM
axemurderer187

Quote:

Originally Posted by InsaneInTheMembrane

The cycle is fine. As for test, it is up to you. If you want to really see the effects of tren alone but not want your libido to suffer then a small dosage of 2-300mg/wk will do, but if you want a mass stack, then up to 600mg/wk is good too BUT watch your estrogen because with dbol and high test that can aromatize and progesteronic tren, you run the risk of fina gyno...so do keep letro and bromo (or caber) on hand in case. Arimidex usage should prevent this for the most part.

I would definitely incorporate hcg into your PCT... these 3 compounds will shut you down pretty hard.

So are you saying my libido will suffer if I increase my test? Shouldn't it be the opposite to that or am I just confused. I was planning on having Letro on the side just incase of gyno problems but from past experience I'm really not prone to gyno. How other then gyno symptons can you monitor your estrogen levels? Or am I just thinking too much......

Will deffentley add HCG to my PCT protocol.
11-13-2007, 10:44 PM
Brent_G

NO hes saying.. If you want to feel JUST the tren. But have NO libido loss. Then run a small dose of test to keep the sex drive up.
11-13-2007, 10:46 PM
InsaneInTheMembrane

^^^^^ yes yes (thanx brent for the clarification)

The usual gyno symptoms are what I would used to gauge estrogen level, from puffiness to itchy nips but the only other way is to run a blood panel..which is not necessary. SO yes, you're thinking too much :lol:

btw, caber = cabergoline ... look it up
11-13-2007, 10:47 PM
axemurderer187

adding test always makes my libido increase......
11-13-2007, 10:48 PM
axemurderer187

Quote:

Originally Posted by InsaneInTheMembrane

btw, caber = cabergoline ... look it up

thank you sir....
11-13-2007, 10:51 PM
AandF6969

Jesus dude 155 lbs and you've ran 2 cycles? What did you start at? Sounds like theres some serious problems with your diet...
11-13-2007, 10:56 PM
hugovsilva

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Originally Posted by AandF6969

Jesus dude 155 lbs and you've ran 2 cycles? What did you start at? Sounds like theres some serious problems with your diet...

Exactly my thought.
11-13-2007, 10:56 PM
axemurderer187

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Originally Posted by AandF6969

Jesus dude 155 lbs and you've ran 2 cycles? What did you start at? Sounds like theres some serious problems with your diet...

Diet can improve but also I am a very active person. I work construction all day so I burn calories like Hitler burns books. Here's a pic, I'm not a skeleton..hahaha
11-13-2007, 11:01 PM
auslifta

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Originally Posted by AandF6969

Jesus dude 155 lbs and you've ran 2 cycles? What did you start at? Sounds like theres some serious problems with your diet...

thats what i was thinking, i'd drop the D-Bol. stop tren 2 weeks before test, run a little less test bout third test two thirds 19nor(tren)
11-13-2007, 11:03 PM
auslifta

i didnt see height, should have looked, dont know about 8% prob 10 or 11
11-14-2007, 10:10 AM
Markosterone

your cycle is good to go...

im on tren now and wow its crasy haha, just great :D

also im on same dose, 75mg ED plus test at same dose.
11-14-2007, 10:54 AM
axemurderer187

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Originally Posted by Markosterone

your cycle is good to go...

im on tren now and wow its crasy haha, just great :D

also im on same dose, 75mg ED plus test at same dose.

cool, can't wait to start...