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    first cycle need deff info.

    i just signed up but iv been lurking around for a couple of months now. i get alot of mixed up info here.

    i was looking to start my first cycle of test & deca . i was going to use a nova and clim as a pct. the cycle is for 10 weeks. is there something better to take for the pct and how much of the pct do i need to take(ie: ? mg for ? weeks or months.)

    thanks in advance.

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    Looking at your profile, at 5'9" and 150lbs there is a good chance your diet needs review as well if you are hoping to bulk up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ima******ger View Post
    Looking at your profile, at 5'9" and 150lbs there is a good chance your diet needs review as well if you are hoping to bulk up.
    Don't forget he is 20. So I agree with a diet review.
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    well iv followed 2 different diet plans and eating 3 full meals aday and eating peanut butter in between those along with weight gainer shakes.

    i consider my self a true hard gainer, not in strength but in size my strength is way above normal for my bodyweight.

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    you need 6-8 meals a day.. not 3

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    i see all these diet plans but they all have tuna in it. i hate fish i hate tuna makes me gag just thinking about it any body have a plan with out fish in it?

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    You can replace tuna with any protein source... chicken, steak, tilapia, salmon, turkey, pork, etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by -disturbed- View Post
    well iv followed 2 different diet plans and eating 3 full meals aday and eating peanut butter in between those along with weight gainer shakes.

    i consider my self a true hard gainer, not in strength but in size my strength is way above normal for my bodyweight.
    Do you know how many calories you eat every day? If you don't eat enough, you don't grow, plain and simple.

    EVERYONE is a hard gainer until they fix their diet.
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    hard boil eggs are a good cheap source of protein also.

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    In my protein shakes, i always try to make them at least a 100g worth in them, and now instead of powder only, i'll replace one scoop w/ 3 raw eggs mixed in there...it really helps the taste and texture as well

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    yeah it does...before i would use skim milk, throw 3 over-filled scoops of protein powder in there and add just a tad of chocolate syrup for some taste and it was always real thick...now i do the same except w/ 2 scoops and 3 raw eggs...if you'll give it a try you wont notice the eggs...i use about 12oz of milk...the eggs make it a lot more liquid so it's not as thick as the protein alone, plus your getting more whole foods...i actually tried swallowing a raw egg whole...wasn't as bad as i expected either..

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    Salmonella!!

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    well my meals are really big and my shakes are 1200 calories for one serving. i eat around 4500 calories aday

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cun0144
    theres no way you can be 5'[email protected] if u take in 4500 calorie a day...im intaking about 4000 calorie a day and im @170 5'9
    true, often times people think they're taking in 4-5000 calories a day when its actually more like 2. this is why a proper diet is so important

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    Quote Originally Posted by -disturbed- View Post
    well my meals are really big and my shakes are 1200 calories for one serving. i eat around 4500 calories aday
    You should list your diet in the diet forum for critique... I'm 99% sure this is where your weight gain problems are.

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    or it could be i take that in but i dont rest enough like i should 4 hours of sleep anight with a high activity everyday. including gym for a hour, 5 miles of running in the mornings, hockey in the aftermoons for about 2 hours, than the gym at night, could that be the reason? if so ill probably cut out running as i dont see the need sense hockey is just as good.

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    You're wasting all those calories you eat with both activities....

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