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    TheMudMans Cycles for the Newbie

    Cycles for the Newbie

    Written by TheMudMan

    Here is a person that I feel is ready to run their first cycle. A person that has reached at least the age 21 (IMO 25 is a better age), has their diet and training in check, and has also researched enough about AAS to not have to ask all the "newbie questions. Remember this is your body and these drugs that you're ingesting and injecting have both good and bad side effects.

    Here are some cycles to consider for a first time user of AAS. All cycles should be based off of test. But before jumping into one of these cycles please do your research. Remember with the good comes the bad. The bad being side effects from the use of AAS. I will not go into them here but if you do your homework you will know what sides you may see and how to avoid them.

    I’m a firm believer in starting anti-estrogens 2 weeks prior to the start of the cycle. This will allow more then enough time to get blood levels peaked. Also, I would also suggest running a SERM (Nolvadex ) and AI (arimidex , proviron , femera) together through the cycle.

    These are just a few of the many combinations of compounds that can be used in a first cycle. I feel that D-bol, EQ, and Winny are all very good to add to a first cycle to help things along but they are not necessary. I also feel that a long acting ester test is best for a first or even a second cycle. The reason is because of the amount of injections that are required by SUS, Prop, and Suspension.
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    Below is the PCT protocol I use for most cycles. You could add 4 grams of Tribulus into PCT. There are plenty of studies that show the use of Tribulus will help increase LH levels. This is why it’s a good idea to use during the cycle as well.
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    i dont know what this means.
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    Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
    Day 2 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
    Day 31 - 37 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
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    these are i assume 31 days before the Cycle.what happens on day 3 through 31? am i taking more then 1 thing a day?
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    Cycle 1:
    1 – 10 Enan 500mg/wk
    1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
    1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED
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    1-10 is ay 1 through 10?
    is this a 12 day Cycle?
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    Start PCT 2 weeks after last Enan injection
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    which would be when.

    basicly having a hard time reading an comprehending.not you're fault mudd.maybe a chart would help?
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    ill get back to the educational threads now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikoloslvy View Post
    Cycles for the Newbie

    Written by TheMudMan

    Here is a person that I feel is ready to run their first cycle. A person that has reached at least the age 21 (IMO 25 is a better age), has their diet and training in check, and has also researched enough about AAS to not have to ask all the "newbie questions. Remember this is your body and these drugs that you're ingesting and injecting have both good and bad side effects.

    Here are some cycles to consider for a first time user of AAS. All cycles should be based off of test. But before jumping into one of these cycles please do your research. Remember with the good comes the bad. The bad being side effects from the use of AAS. I will not go into them here but if you do your homework you will know what sides you may see and how to avoid them.

    I’m a firm believer in starting anti-estrogens 2 weeks prior to the start of the cycle. This will allow more then enough time to get blood levels peaked. Also, I would also suggest running a SERM (Nolvadex ) and AI (arimidex , proviron , femera) together through the cycle.

    These are just a few of the many combinations of compounds that can be used in a first cycle. I feel that D-bol, EQ, and Winny are all very good to add to a first cycle to help things along but they are not necessary. I also feel that a long acting ester test is best for a first or even a second cycle. The reason is because of the amount of injections that are required by SUS, Prop, and Suspension.
    __________________________________________________ ________________
    Below is the PCT protocol I use for most cycles. You could add 4 grams of Tribulus into PCT. There are plenty of studies that show the use of Tribulus will help increase LH levels. This is why it’s a good idea to use during the cycle as well.
    __________________________________________________ _______________
    i dont know what this means. He states above that this is his proposed pct, so that would be after cycle.
    __________________________________________________ ________________
    Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
    Day 2 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
    Day 31 - 37 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
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    these are i assume 31 days before the Cycle.(wrong) what happens on day 3 through 31? am i taking more then 1 thing a day? days 3-31 of pct you would be taking what is listed, as you would all other days of pct.
    __________________________________________________ ________________
    Cycle 1:
    1 – 10 Enan 500mg/wk
    1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
    1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED
    __________________________________________________ _________________
    1-10 is ay 1 through 10?
    is this a 12 day Cycle? No, this would mean weeks 1-10
    __________________________________________________ ________________
    Start PCT 2 weeks after last Enan injection
    __________________________________________________ __________
    which would be when. Which would be 2 weeks after last test injection.

    basicly having a hard time reading an comprehending.not you're fault mudd.maybe a chart would help?
    __________________________________________________ ______________
    ill get back to the educational threads now.
    My responses are in red above. I would elaborate but I'm late for dinner. Bump for more opinions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikoloslvy View Post
    Cycles for the Newbie


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    Cycle 1:
    1 – 10 Enan 500mg/wk
    1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
    1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED
    __________________________________________________ _________________
    ten weeks, split the injections in 2, so your doing 250mg twice a week, monday and thursday for example

    12 weeks cycle

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    Start PCT 2 weeks after last Enan injection

    Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
    Day 2 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
    Day 31 - 37 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
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    this is pct it starts 14 days after the last injection of your tesy enan

    1st day...... 300mg clomid + 20 mg nolva + .25 l-dex
    days 2 till 30...... 100mg clomid + 20mg nolva + 0.25 l-dex everyday
    days 31 till 37 .....20mg nolva + .25 l-dex everyday

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    hope this helps

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    oh yer definatly do some more reading as well

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    of course as a newbie i was scared of injections and thought them unsafe.so i got d ball(or the pink things).after lurking around i realized this was stupid. i bought that steroid book you guys push
    what i really need is to find a good gym.mine is free but dosent have the best equipment.
    Last edited by tupollo; 11-18-2007 at 06:01 PM.

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    Trib has been shown to increase estrogen.. Also its does not increase test .. It will increase libido ,which is not a indicator that test levels have elevated...

    Also I think to many are to quick to jump on a AI .. Estrogen is a important factor in building muscle so you dont want to knock it out.. Check out my estrogen post ..

    http://forums.steroid.com/blogs/merc-/28-estrogen-ai-article.html


    Merc.

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    thank you.

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    hi again.
    what is L-dex ? i looked through the profiles but im not sure what im looking for.

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    l-dex=liquidex=arimidex

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    t.y.

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