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"%99 of multiuse vials in market at this time are UG regardless of what label says as anyone can import oils or raw materials and rebottle vials with $200 investment, with nice label it can be passed on as human grade but the downside is :
UG produced in normal room so pyrogens , dust mites and contaminant are inside vial already regardless how carefully filtered or boiled your vials afterward , killing bacteria will not remove its pyrogen , sterility is more the filtering and adding BA so even on pharmacy multiuse ones , after first use your vial no longer sterile as you must inject air into vial to draw the oil out each time , outside air contain germs and contaminant and various pyrogens , dust etc
that?s why most human use injects come in amps , one time use units lessen chance of contamination
multi use vials only meant for hospitals or animal farms where subjects lined up to get shot so they go through vial quickly before germs get chance to grow
the rubber in vials are magnet to germs as its porous -pours means small microscopic holes that?s germs seek refugee
its common practice to load up ug vials with BB or BA to stop the germs
but BB/BA dissolve the rubber both in vial and plunger , just add a drop of BA or BB to stopper and see it melts , then you inject that into your body , used often body infected with silicon rubber result in cancer in long run , nor killing bacteria remove their pyrogens
regardless of what powder factories say tells you purity on ug powders/oils is often %97 or below so not safe for human use
no one knows what the rest of %3 is , it?s common for raw material used to make ug oil smell like acetone or other chemicals , colors of every batch vary while they show you same good assay
after all your source paid $10k for raw materials ,would he throw it away ? It?s like there is any other option to source better ones or he can order his powders from Europe? besides everyone else using same powers as his , so answer is : it end up going into your body regardless of purity , even if its %90 it goes into ur body and you think it?s real pharmacy stuff too because label says so
how about testing ? Guys just test for steroid, if tested to contain correct steroid then its good and goes into your body regardless of it contain harmful impurities, no one cares what impurities in there so never test for... and even impurities detected still it go into your body
what about powder factory assay ? Often powders suppliers assay is not to that batch or barrowed so always show good! Even when each batch visually looks and smell different! Still you get same good assay!
Compare to amps made according GMP have to use %99.9 purity reprocessed purified material that?s cost lot more and takes months to get prepped , tested , produced)
ampoule are free of pyrogens and air , germs don?t grow where there is no air also 600 degree heat to melt the glass kill them , this done in sterile room in multimillion dollar facility as one cannot make amps in his apartment like multiuse vials , try making one amp in basement then you know the difference between a vial and amp
compare to 10ml rebottled with air inside already , and you injecting more of contaminant such as dust and pyrogens each time into it and back into your body ,loaded with BA so you inject silicon rubber into your body each time and God know what impurities the raw material had to begin with
bigger vial means you stick needle in out more so is chance of contamination , but guys think injectables are like a Pepsi bottle , bigger ones are better deal !
min run to make amps is 100,000 amps per type so its big investment, so a full line need a half a million dollar compare to multi use vial anyone can rebottle and label with $200 equipment , one cannot do same with amp so if you want to make sure it?s not ug get amps ..
we have nothing against bulk oils and offer it too and that?s what %99 of guys injecting in their body anyways and that will only increase as customs and law getting more restrict daily , but beware there is huge difference in safety and nice labels cannot turn ug to human grade
================================ hard truth about BA/BB that all UG stuff contain :
we been making ug oil for past 11 years , we are worlds first ug oil maker that I know of
4 of our customers diagnosed with cancer , one is a IFBB and my friend , cancer ended his career
their doctors all diagnosed same thing :
their body infected with rubber from syringe plunger and vial stopper which dissolved by BB/BA
just add few DROPS of %3 BB + %15 BA you recommending on plunger rubber and leave it for a short while and see it get stuck ,take rubber out and inspect it , you see it dissolved ,then you inject that rubber into your body day after day , week after week
their doctor all said same thing : that lead to cancer and there is no cure for it
maybe that?s why according to FDA max safe limit for either or combined BB/BA is only %1 ,any higher do not exist as medicine approved for injection to human body
we used to make up to 400 mg oils with BB/BA before anyone else but the stuff killing my friends , I cannot do this again to anyone ,test our oil , its free of BB and BA
all UG using BB and BA , they either don?t know or don?t care ,we only use Paraben / methyl paraben to sterilize the bulk oil ,paraben is like salt crystals so it?s not a solvent like BA so cannot bring up the dose
because of all this we invested $400k to produce human grade amps , I sell them as low as $2 per amp so more guys use human grade
Cyp needs BA to get even close to 200mg , guys want higher dose will end up rubber injected into their body ,same goes for many other steroids ...
enanthate same as cyp in real life and don?t need cancer causing solvents , so I removed cyp from site
as for tren go , few of my guys kidney failed on tren , kidney do not regenerate like liver so there is no cure
Dan duchaine died because of tren , he choose death rather than going through painful daily dialysis for rest of his life , dialysis is machine with 2 hoses and 2 huge nail size needle into your sides , then all your blood go into machine to be cleaned , the huge daily IV needle pain and hours it take and get infections after a while with all the hoses and needles going in and out , that?s your life to be attached to machine ,if rich you buy machine and keep with you , if not you move near hospital and hope you have good insurance , that?s what they tell me ..
tren is world?s most toxic steroid , it?s not like test which you can inject 1000 mg and only get water ,tren will kill your kidney , that?s why it designed to be used at low doses only , if you need more effects from tren stack it with winy or test
steroids can kill you directly like tren or indirectly through all the rubber you injecting into your body
also tren needs BA to go over 75 mg so you get kidney poison and cancer in one bottle , you want to see emails of MY CUSTOMER with Failed liver
now we only make oils without BB/BA , that limits dose , it may crystallize and crush in cold but I will not cause cancer we use paraben as preservative , know what BA/BB did to guys
guys asking for high dose short acting steroids , like high dose prop or tren acetate
with short acting ones you must inject it daily regardless its 50 mg or 200 mg so what is the point of adding cancer causing solvents? ? , if they want good deal just buy direct get lowest prices and beat any prices
if you insist on bulk oils , then we can only offer without BA/BB so only at doses it dissolve without them , buy your bottle of cancer causing BA from other sources not here ..
we are worlds first UG producer for over a decade , worlds first 50mg winy when only other was 2.5 mg , first bulk oil , super stuff 400 mg and above which we don?t deal with anymore ,we did and seen it all , guys say ug stuff better and dosed higher , have you seen how much is 500 mg ? Its tea spoon of powder, now have you seen how big is 1ml of oil? , that much powder don?t dissolve in 1ml of oil unless cancer causing BA /BB added, its been said pain caused by alcohols Ba but that?s not only cause, too much powder and not enough oil so it crystallize in your ars , powder are tiny crystals which are sharp object and oil gone so turn to a knot in airs cause pain,.. So after first batch they hear complaints and water it down but that 500 mg label stays so you be sucker... first batch tested high so sales not efected but at the end you are sucker , guys crying in pain dont help sales.. As for test anything over 285 mg is asking for it so we don?t... tren , primo etc all have low solibility below 100 mg.. We don?t use cancer causing alcohols and no super dose cancer bottles
we approached Chinese pharmaceutical companies for human grade amps, surprised at what they told us, the powers in china are not fit for human use! only 2 powers were ,prop and nandrolone phen-prop , only because they already made for this purpose as there been already human grade prop amps in human grade produced in china for human use , only in 50 and 25 mg dose ..The rest of powders were not fit! New batches of powders and purification process had to be employed to produce our amps so we paying lot higher for raw material, same none-fit powders in use for all ug .. ..
we see so many misinformation on boards ,with any substance that has been criminalized there is rumors and lies spread on boards , take it with a grain of salt , the truth missing is health problems caused by steroid criminalization : users forced to use unsterilized homebrewed and UG products made of Chinese raw material which are not up to pharmaceutical standards to begin with , heavy metals , oil soluble impurities that cannot be filtered , unconverted intermediates and other chemicals used in various stages of synthesis still there , guys just add BB and call it sterile , you see EQ from china thin and smell like acetone with as low as %70 purity with their fake Assay which not from same batch they selling , the ones we used to get 10 years ago from Italy was thick as honey and didn?t even needed filtering with true %99.7 purity , due to tightening regulations it become impossible to get European raw material, Athletes forced to use short acting orals to clear doping tests , the very law to save health did the opposite.. "
I've always switched out pin head from rubber stopper before injecting so I made sure it was always brand new...glad I did this for sure because it makes sense if any crap is inside the pin itself or chamber
the thing that gets me is multi-use of vials!
we're using this UGL shit thinking its sanitary when it most likely is not at all and was made in the kitchen or garage (similar to the pictures a month back of that dirty man in his house making gear)
recalling "mans who arms exploded" and the BB who had a "massive" heart attack whom I am sure was abusing AAS made a statement about...."1 drop of steroids in your body....years and years down the road could still be there in a cell and cause damage" and I would have to agree, it isnt like our bodies destroy everything in it, especially synthetic hormones not natural for human usage
most of us are young and dont think of this stuff and when we took that stance to use AAS, hopefully most of us are smart and dont abuse it, in 20 years, we could develop something from this unsterile stuff, ya know?
think!!"
This sure makes me think..
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