I'm on my first cycle of winstrol at 50ml every other day, do I need to take a rest day, and can I lift twice a day?(One heavy large muscle group, then one weak point later?)
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I'm on my first cycle of winstrol at 50ml every other day, do I need to take a rest day, and can I lift twice a day?(One heavy large muscle group, then one weak point later?)
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Yes, Your body needs rest to recover and grow. It will vary from person to person you just have to figure out what your specific needs are.
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Your profile states that you are a personal trainer(?)Originally Posted by JSola
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please dont tell my you're running winstrol by itself.
what is your planned pct?
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Ive never met one that knew what they were talking about. they hand those certifacates out like lollies
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yayaya, im a trainer, but ive never dealt with gear before, and they do hand out these certifications like nothing! I've actually only been lifting for two years and figured it was an easy way to make money and not work too hard(i was right) I am using decca, but only every 10days for my joints and novadex everyday for the estrogen. i dont know what my pct will be and the guy whos hooking it all up is claiming he knows what hes doing. help me out here guys. am i doing this all wrong?
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Yep bro, if you are on a deca and winny cycle, that is definitely not good, and you never want to take nolva with 19nor groups like deca. What exactly are you taking dosage and timeline?
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Nope, sorry, it would seem he doesn't have a clue.
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damn man. Honestly you should put some thought and research into things before you inject a foreign substance into your body.
if you arent too far into your cycle i would stop and get your so called source to get you some pct chems before you take this too far.
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The dude you're getting advice from is officially retarded.
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maybe he's a personal trainer
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I'm a month in, and the dude has been a personal trainer for like 20 years and claims hes a Fing expert. Im taking 50mg every other day of winny, 1 1/2 tabs of novadex every day and 50mg decca every 10 days. What do i gotta do? And the reason i signed on here is because i started to get the feeling that this dude was a little off and that i might be hurting myself.
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Oh man I love personal trainers... I especially love watching them instruct clients how to do exercises with incorrect form.maybe he's a personal trainer
Funny thing is, I am one.
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uh oh....
Made Up Of Wires
Yep I'm officially retarded now.uh oh....
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I'll make sure the seat is warm for you on the short bus when it comes to get you
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Sorry bro, but you need to stop, do a pct, then research how to do a proper cycle. All the info you need is on this site and we will help you.
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what sort of pct exactly? and should i wait till i get the pct stuff before i stop?
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stop now to let the aas clear out of your system, you dont want to continue suppressing your hpta.
check out the pct forum to see what options are available for pct
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aas, hpta????? im a personal trainer, remember!? what do these things mean?
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aas=anabolic androgenic steroids
hpta=Hypothalamic Pituitary Testicular Axis
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okay, got it, and my pct? and you're saying i shouldnt wait till i have my pct materials, i should just stop?
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if you stop now, you can rid your body of the aas suppressing your hpta (thanks for the definitions big). why would you continue using suppressive compounds that will only prolong recovery? get my drift?
you need your pct materials asap, if you stop now you will begin the recovery process and when you get your pct chems you will use them to kickstart your natural test production up back to normal
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damnit, what a waste of time and money, i really appreciate ur guys help, and from now on im consulting u guys for all info, should i use any natural test enhancing products? zma, tribulus, yohimbe, etc?
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none of those products are clinically proven to be effective test boosters, you can give it a shot but i personally dont think theyre worth it.
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for my pct should i just stay on the nolvadex? and how much? anything on top of that?
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Nolvadex and clomid... nolva at 20mg/day, Clomid I believe standard is either 100mg/day for a month, or 300mg the first day, 100mg for a week, and then 50mg for 3 weeks
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i have nolvadex pills, any idea what size these are? bit smaller than an aspirin
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most likely 20mg/pill. thats just an assumption though, depends on who made them. pharm grade or ugl?
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beats me, came in a little ziplock, from the "expert", can i really order all this stuff online i thought it was illegal?
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Why is this, can u explain??
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Because nolva used on cycle with 19nor groups can increase your chances of gyno.
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Good to know...Thanks
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No problem bro. Actually Merc is the one that taught me that, I'm just passing the info along.
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