Easy question for the pros...PLEEEZ help

[jeezy3]

I posted these pics to try to find out if my gear is legit. Someone responded by saying that I can only know by actually trying it out.

I'd really like to figure out, asap, if this stuff is real or fake. This cycle will be Test E, only. I just did my first 500ml 1 week ago; Monday will be poke #2.

My Question: Which would be the very FIRST sign/indicator (increased libido, acne, strength, etc.) that will confirm that my stuff is good? At what point in time will I see it? I'd just like to know right away if what I got is good so I don't keep on w/ this gear if its no good.

FYI: My first cycle was Mex gear in '04 and I know it was good stuff because I noticed all the usual signs, including a crazy sex drive. I guess that, this time around, I was looking to confirm that my gear is good by paying attention to my sex drive. How far into the cycle do you notice your libido kicking into overdrive?

Thanks guys, I appreciate your input.

[Big]

I'm not familiar with that gear, but the for me the first signs the gear is kicking in is a stronger sex drive, and on test e I usually start to notice that in 4 or 5 weeks.

[MeanMachine2000]

Lets see what's inside the box

[jeezy3]

Great, that helps!

Any other signs that I might notice any sooner than that? Will there be ANY signs in the first 1-3 weeks that will confirm that this is good gear?

I'm curious becuase a few people on this board talk down on this brand.

Thanks again.

[jeezy3]

MeanMachine2000,

I'll post some pics of the bottle, asap. Thanks.

[jeezy3]

(Pics of the vial)

[jeezy3]

(one more)

[10nispro]

Those pics look similar to the stuff I just finished. Did you check the pic forum for fakes and real gear. Thats where I found the pic i needed. I would go by the sides though. My libido picked up around 3 week but I frontloaded the first week. Acne on shoulders started around same time.

[J*U*icEd]

looks real to me... i used the same exact stuff... were the boxes plastic wrapped??

[J*U*icEd]

and what color cap was on top??...

[jeezy3]

Yup, I checked those threads.

Yes, box was plastic-wrapped. Here's a pic of the green cap.

So, just finished some of this same stuff? How'd it work for you?

Thanks again!

[topnotch]

i know that company was shut down during operation gear grinder a couple years ago...i heard it's mostly faked now, unless it's supply remaining from before then...unless they've started up again and i've not heard...

[Maldorf]

i know that company was shut down during operation gear grinder a couple years ago...i heard it's mostly faked now, unless it's supply remaining from before then...unless they've started up again and i've not heard...

Exactly. Thats mexican gear,and that lab is was shut down years ago. Only way that it legit is if it is left over from then. It would help if it had a manufacture date on it somewhere.

[J*U*icEd]

looks real to me... i already new you were gonna tell me it had a green cap... i think it's real...

[topnotch]

in his post #7 it shows the date of 04/08 which i'm assuming is the exp date... i dunno if there is any way to tell when it was manufactured if that's the exp date

[J*U*icEd]

Yup, I checked those threads.

Yes, box was plastic-wrapped. Here's a pic of the green cap.

So, just finished some of this same stuff? How'd it work for you?

Thanks again!

no not just finished... i used that atleast 2 years ago

[jeezy3]

Thanks for the input.

So, again...you're saying that that I won't see any confirmation symptoms til ~3 wks in? (increased libido or acne). I'm really trying to find out what proof I'll see feel, and when I'll see it so I know for sure. I'm looking for solid signs.

[J*U*icEd]

Thanks for the input.

So, again...you're saying that that I won't see any confirmation symptoms til ~3 wks in? (increased libido or acne). I'm really trying to find out what proof I'll see feel, and when I'll see it so I know for sure. I'm looking for solid signs.

oh yull know

[Maldorf]

I find it hard to believe that any of that stuff is still hanging around since the lab was shut down like 1 year ago or more.

[topnotch]

yeah if yours was from 2 years ago, then it was probably legit..but as maldorf said that was mexican gear, and that lab was shut down a couple years ago...so unelss you've got your hands on some old stock, it's probably not real

[J*U*icEd]

look at the expiration date... 2008... i think thats within the time frame of when they were shut down... to bad the site isn't around still u could have looked up the batch number.... i used to do it all the time with QV products....

[Maldorf]

I think most gear is usually good for about 2 years after it is manufactured, so that would put it somtime in 2006. Look up operation gear grinder and see when that happened.

[jeezy3]

Ok, I guess there's no real way to know by looking at it. For that reason, I'm really just trying to find out WHEN I would probably see what I'm gonna see. I've used legit gear before and know those signs when I'm experiencing them but becuase its been so long, I don't remember WHEN they happen. I'd like to know, from your guys' experience, (roughly) when I'd expect to see the signs, so if that point comes and goes, I know that my gear is bunk. Not sure if if my ? makes sense. Thanks.