D-Bol Only

[Undecided09]

I have a couple of questions...

First, I believe, but am not sure, is D-bol still a legal drug in the U.S.?

Second, has anyone on here ran a D-bol only cycle? and for how long at what dosage???

[RBIZZY]

no, its illegal. and you really should stack it with something like deca or test cyp or enan

[Big]

no, its illegal. and you really should stack it with something like deca or test cyp or enan

Deca OR test? Not a good "or" there bro, a dbol deca cycle is not recommended without test.

[RBIZZY]

my bad. he's right.

[Blooddraine]

why is everyone so anti-injections.... don't do a dbol only cycle.

[Amorphic]

how many times does this horse have to be beaten to death?

Run your dbol with test, your gains will be better, you will feel better, and if you have a proper pct, you might have something to show for it when its all done.

[luckylou]

I have a couple of questions...

First, I believe, but am not sure, is D-bol still a legal drug in the U.S.?

Second, has anyone on here ran a D-bol only cycle? and for how long at what dosage???

Test e 12/14 week cycle, + run D-bol 50mgs/day for 1st 4 weeks.

Pct :
Nolva 20mgs/day 4 weeks
aromasin 25 mgs/day 4 weeks
Vitamin e 1000ius/day 4 weeks.

Some people will tell you that you need HCG with your pct. Not True, (with test e + D-bol cycle)
I did not use it with my pct, and plan on not useing it for my 2nd cycle pct .
(HCG is up to you. But i Did not use it for my PCT and all was fine.)

Start your pct 14 days after last shot of Test.

But this is just my Opinion, Decide for yourself with Reaserch.

Peace Out.

[Undecided09]

I knew this would happen when I asked this, its how this board seems to work....I understand d-bol SHOULD be run with test, but my question is, if you were to run a D-bol only cycle, what would the dosages be, for how long, and what types of gains should you expect?

P.S. Anthony Roberts ran a D-bol only cycle for 6 weeks at 25 mgs a day for his first cycle, remarking afterward, "I gained roughly 25lbs and kept nearly ½ of it. Since then, Dbol has always had a special place in my heart."

[Big]

I knew this would happen when I asked this, its how this board seems to work....I understand d-bol SHOULD be run with test, but my question is, if you were to run a D-bol only cycle, what would the dosages be, for how long, and what types of gains should you expect?

P.S. Anthony Roberts ran a D-bol only cycle for 6 weeks at 25 mgs a day for his first cycle, remarking afterward, "I gained roughly 25lbs and kept nearly ½ of it. Since then, Dbol has always had a special place in my heart."

Looks like you answered your own question then.

[buffgator]

well hypotheticaly speaking a dbol only cycle should be ran at the same dose and duration as if it where stacked with test. The gains would probably be impressive, however the HUGE CRASH after would be a devastation. Lose muscle strength sex drive muscle fullness pumps ect

[PEWN]

its amazing how that works ... when some one answers there own question. .

[buffgator]

pewn your amazing.

[Amorphic]

i give up

[buffgator]

amorph You get the prize today for trying.

[Undecided09]

well hypotheticaly speaking a dbol only cycle should be ran at the same dose and duration as if it where stacked with test. The gains would probably be impressive, however the HUGE CRASH after would be a devastation. Lose muscle strength sex drive muscle fullness pumps ect

Hypothetically though, as long as you reboosted your testosterone levels as quickly as possible, you could retain some good gains....It shouldnt be extremely hard either seeing that D-Bol, even ran at dosages as high as 100 mgs per day for 6 weeks, has been proven to be recoverable....

So if you were to run a D-bol only cycle, how would each of you run it? (and if ur going to say "I wouldn't" just don't post, I'm asking hypothetically, if you were too, how would each of u do it...)

[Amorphic]

the other dbol only thread is worse. lol

[Amorphic]

sigh,

run your dbol only at 40mg/ed for 4 weeks.

crash because you will have no test, and then you can look forward to feeling horrible on pct while your natty test is nothing and you're frantically trying to recover.

[Amorphic]

and lastly, so what if anthony roberts ran a dbol only cycle and kept half his gains.

does that mean since he did it that its a wise idea for you to do it?

[Undecided09]

Ofcourse not, but he is someone who has possibly more experience with these drugs, and done more research on them, than any member of this board...

Heres a question as well, D-bol shouldn't shut down your natural test levels nearly as hard at enanthate or any other straight test correct? Especially ran at only 50 mgs for 4-6 weeks?

[RBIZZY]

d-bol is bad for your liver too, thats one reason you should keep it to 4weeks and use it just to kick start a cycle. it is highly toxic compared to alot of other substances. i would suggest using milk thistle extract when using d-bol.

[Amorphic]

you would be fully shut down after 6 weeks of dbol.

any exogenous hormone will suppress your endogenous production.

[Undecided09]

you would be fully shut down after 6 weeks of dbol.

any exogenous hormone will suppress your endogenous production.

So how would that be different than running a test E cycle for 10-12 weeks, as far as your natural production goes? And why has the research I have read say that even high dosages of D-Bol, i.e. 100 mgs, still wont completely shut you down, or be unrecoverable??

[topnotch]

anthony roberts may know his stuff, and i respect what he does for this board...but have you seen pics of him? obviously he isn't the biggest guy around by far...many guys on here that are telling your their opinions right now, i'm sure know a lot more about what works

[Amorphic]

So how would that be different than running a test E cycle for 10-12 weeks, as far as your natural production goes? And why has the research I have read say that even high dosages of D-Bol, i.e. 100 mgs, still wont completely shut you down, or be unrecoverable??

i didnt say running dbol alone is unrecoverable, no compound is unrecoverable unless you are hypogonadal, thats the whole point of pct, to activate lh and fsh to stimulate your own natural production.

running a test e cycle makes you feel good because you are increasing your primary sex hormone by incredible amounts. running dbol alone shuts down your test production and there is nothing to fill that void.

running test with dbol allows you to have the benefits of testosterone (mood, energy, well being) until you hit pct.

in pct you feel worse off than in cycle because you no longer have the high amount of androgens in your system. Ask anyone on the board how they feel in pct, and they will say it sucks compared to on cycle.

[PEWN]

[Undecided09]

So i guess my next question would have to be, what else could you run, besides an illegal compound, that could maintain or boost your test levels while taking D-Bol to counteract the dropping natural levels?

Second question, won't your test levels (not natural) be high while on the D-Bol as it converts to test after ingestion? and couldnt you run a PCT similar to that if you were taking test?

[topnotch]

you could run a pct similar...the problem is, with d-bol you've shut your test down...when your taking test eth for example, you still have test in your body, and it's slowly decreasing up until pct...b/c of the long ester attached...something i've never heard anyone say, has anyone tried running the d-bol, and then running something like prop the last couple weeks of d-bol leading into pct? or is that just as pointless as running d-bol alone? not something i'd do personally, just a thought?

[Amorphic]

the pct would be the same regardless, maybe not as intense as something on a 14 week deca/test cycle but you would be aiming to restore your natural production quickly and efficiently

nothing is going to be able to boost your test levels to a normal level on dbol except testosterone itself.

otc test boosters arent proven to be effective.

[Undecided09]

Yes I understand that, but the D-bol turns to test in your body no? and doesn't that replace your natural production? Therefore, you would have the D-bol replacing your natural test, and then running a PCT to bring your natural levels back up as you come off of the D-bol?

[Amorphic]

no it doesnt convert into testosterone. it suppresses your natural test.

when you finish dbol you are devoid of natural testosterone.

[Undecided09]

"In this study, done in the early 80´s, a very high dose of Dbol (100mgs/day for 6 weeks) decreased plasma testosterone to about 40% of it´s normal value, plasma GH went up about a third, LH dropped to about 80% of it´s original value, and FSH went down about a third also"

"Steroid alternatives can provide a similar effect to anabolic steroids, but is legal because they do not convert to testosterone or hormones until they are ingested into the body"

those are both from this website....

[Amorphic]

"Steroid alternatives can provide a similar effect to anabolic steroids, but is legal because they do not convert to testosterone or hormones until they are ingested into the body"

so what do pro hormones have to do with dbol shutting you down?

[Big]

Why do you come here, ask a question (and answer your own question) then refute all the advice you are given? If you have done all this research and know so much on the subject, what exactly is the purpose of this thread?

[PEWN]

to prove his worthy ness to me ....

[Big]

to prove his worthy ness to me ....

Is it working?

[Amorphic]

to prove his worthy ness to me ....

that must be it

[Undecided09]

Because under steroid alterntives, d-bol is listed as a supplement on this website?

I don't have all the answers, im trying to disect this information that i am getting on this stuff, that mind you, is coming from this website...

[PEWN]

Is it working?

[MeanMachine2000]

So i guess my next question would have to be, what else could you run, besides an illegal compound, that could maintain or boost your test levels while taking D-Bol to counteract the dropping natural levels?

Second question, won't your test levels (not natural) be high while on the D-Bol as it converts to test after ingestion? and couldnt you run a PCT similar to that if you were taking test?

D-BOL is an illegal substance so why are you so hung up on running a second illegal substance

[Big]

D-BOL is an illegal substance so why are you so hung up on running a second illegal substance

Excellent question.