Bridging a cycle

[JSola]

If you used dianabol to kickstart a cycle, can you still use it at say 10mg/day to bridge while on your pct?

[JSola]

also, instead of doing the 10mg/day to bridge, can you use it just to maintain gains during pct?

[Johny-too-small]

During pct, you dont use anything. Thats the point of pct. Otherwise, just stay on (I wouldnt do that either).

[Chuck_R]

Hey JSola, I am by no means an expert or novice, but I offer my answer. One of the reasons(or main reason) you go thru' pct is to help your body to get its natural production of test. back to normal levels since the steroids suppress natural production. Using a sterorid,such as dianabol, to bridge to or during pct would be self defeating given the fact that it would still be suppressing natural production.

[JSola]

I found this on an educational thread: it says that dianabol on a low dosage wont affect test


In order to successfully bridge between cycles (and this means using a low dose of AAS…in this case dbol), you need to recover your natural hormonal levels to pre-cycle levels or to within acceptable parameters, and then you start your next cycle. The idea here is that you won’t lose any gains, but rather a low dose of an AAS will help you maintain them. Typically, you’d use around 10mgs/day of dbol and combine it with an aggressive Post-Cycle Therapy (PCT) course of Nolvadex (and/or Clomid) and HCG. This would give you full androgen replacement from the Dbol and a shot at recovering your natural hormonal levels via the other stuff you are taking. Remember, the 100mg/day dose of dbol in the study we looked at earlier did not suppress Test, LH, or FSH to a degree that would make recovery impossible…and certainly not with 1/10th that dose in conjunction with an aggressive PCT.

All in all, this is a very good drug, and a potent tool for quick gains or retaining gains...when used properly and safely.

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[InsaneInTheMembrane]

^^^still not buying it... whatever the case, PCT is not only about recovering your test production, it is also important because after PCT your body needs to function in a gear free environment in its natural homeostasis...otherwise, in the long run, undesirable permanent changes will come of it. Furthermore, lets say you DO use dbol between two short cycles... your body may handle it but are you gonna bridge between EVERY cycle...you're saying you'll never completely come off? The author of that article is stating his interpretation of the facts, so it is not gospel!

[JSola]

ok, you win, i was just inquiring about something i read, trying to educate myself, but i do agree that it seems to go against the idea of pct being gear free

[Ashop]

If you used dianabol to kickstart a cycle, can you still use it at say 10mg/day to bridge while on your pct?

You dont want to take anything that will supress your natural production during PCT. DBOL will effect HPTA

[millionairemurph]

ok so all of the things out there that say that xxx substance at xx dose dont significantly lower test. Ok but what if your test was already at zero like when you come off cycle? Of coure it wont lower test then, but as i understand it, it will seriously retard your natural test from coming back. Some say it will keep it from coming back. So there are 2 schools of thought. I'd play it safe, do a killer pct and cycle again when you are ready. Im 2 months off and i am at the exact same weight, having dropped a percent or 2 of water/bodyfat. so i have gained muscle even. It's all diet.

[sphincter]

yeah, come off, do PCT and cycel again..

[cache49]

I too am not an expert but from what I have gathered on this, the short version.... you should only use a non-supressive compound to bridge or coast with...such as GH. Many, if they can affort it, will stay on GH year round. But, as stated above...rest is very nessesary for your body to function on its own. I agree, Cycle then pct then rest. JMO.