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    Checklist for my cycle order....

    Ok so heres what I`m ordering (I found a reptuable source)

    3x10ml vials of TEST E 250mg
    2x10ml vials of WINSTROL 50mg
    3x20 TABS 50mg CLOMID
    1x25 TABS ARIMIDEX 1mg

    I was going to use DBOL for the first 4 weeks but my source doesnt currently have it available so I think I`ll just front load the test E as someone else suggested.

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    1 1000mg TEST E (3-4 injections not sure)
    2-12 500mg TEST E (2 injections)
    9-14 50mg EOD WINSTROL injections

    ARIMIDEX will be used if needed throughout cycle,

    PCT starting at the end of the winnie injections CLOMID and possibly arimidex but I dont know If I`ll need that in pct or not. I`ll go 4 weeks pct starting 100mg ED clomid and probably drop it to 50mg during the 4th week of pct.

    Is there anything else I should get with all this?
    Not sure what needles I will be using yet either.....
    Should I frontload and extra week? i will have enough Test to do it as well


    Thanks....

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    I would get some nolva to add to your pct if possible. otherwise looks good. Good luck bro!

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    I can get it, is the Nolva more for retaining the gains or to bring you back to normal?

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    Bro you dont need to frontload, just start your cycle, eat and train and in about 2 weeks you will start to grow. front loading is gay.

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    Ok lol, I wasnt too sure about that part, I guess I could just have a few cc's left over for next time...Uh ohI`m talking about next time before starting :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-rex1 View Post
    Bro you dont need to frontload, just start your cycle, eat and train and in about 2 weeks you will start to grow. front loading is gay.
    Not true bro...if you have done any research then you should know it can take between 4 and 6 weeks for the compound to kick in so saying 2 weeks is far fetched...frontloads work great for me aswell others.
    Last edited by Bigmax; 11-30-2007 at 04:20 PM.

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    Thanks, I will have some time to read mroe on front loading before I start anyways so I will decide that part later. I just want to make sure I get everything I need at once.

    Anyone second the suggestion for Nolva during PCT?

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    seconded! it's more for gyno though.

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    I would frontload I did the c cycle im on now and Im about to go into my third week and ive already gained 7 pounds. I wouldnt do 1000mg that quite a bit 750mg would be enough expecially if its your first cycle you can overdose on test.

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    so for the front load, 750mg for how many weeks?

    I am thinking for the price I will go with the Nolva too. Thanks.

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    750mgs front load the first week. Search for the thread named "frontloading explained" to see graphs of blood levels.

    Drop the clomid, use Nolva 60/40/20

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    Yeah front loading is just for the first week

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    You would front load for one week. Take 500mg Mon nad 500 Thurs. Then 250 Mon 250 250 Thurs keep that dose through cycle.

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