1st Cycle help...

[shockwavematty]

hey guys,


Been posting and reading here for a while and have had a few posts regarding first cycles but have held off to learn a little more..


im 28 an ex kiickboxer for 4 years so have been in very good shape....I have been hitting the gym hard and my stats are


5/11 1/2
96 kg (not sure in pounds what that equates to )
bf around 15% mark , hase drifted out a little since stopping the extreme cardio....
Naturally i am lucky as i am naturaly muscular..



I had a few cycles i was thinking of doing in the past these are the ones i am considering...

test e 600mg weeks 1 -12


Another cycle is

test e 600 mg weeks 1 - 12
deca 400 mg weeks 1-10

or


test e 600mg weeks 1-12

dbol weeks 1-4 (not sure on dosage amount )


My goals bigger , stronger , more muscle

i do have stanazol on hand would it be worthwile to use that also or as im thinking get rid or it and use it for a future cycle.....

how much mg per ml does tets e as i heard somone say it does not come in more than 50 or 75 mg per ml..



thanks guys

also pct advice would be greatly appreciated

[buffgator]

well as a first cycle I would recommend 500mg per week test e for 12 weeks, than anthony roberts pct. Keep arimadex or aromasin on hand incase of sides, and some letro incase of gyno. Make sure your diet and training are on par, post those up in the proper forums so that you can get an outsiders view. test e usualy comes in 250mg per ml

[shockwavematty]

I have decided on Test e

The test e i can get is not the pharmacutical 200 - 250 mg per ml its the animal 75mg per ml....

im planning on doin 12 weeks x 7.5 ml which = 562mg per week


the reason been so i use all the test up as im getting 90 ml...

Has anyone hear had exp wth 75mg enanthate

i am thinking of kickstarting the cycle with d bol for the first 4 weekd at 25 - 30 mg Ed...

how does that sound...


im going to work out the correct pct etc once i have the gear organised.


thanks

[buffgator]

for a first cycle I would just take test e. You dont want to take both and then start getting bad sides and be like oh...i dont know which substance is causing this.

[basshead69]

For your first cycle I would just run the test and go a head and frontload it with 750mg fo the first week.

Week 1-10 Test E 500mg Inject Monday and Friday Frontload first week with 750mg
PCT- Anthony Roberts is the best imo

[magic32]

500mgs EW is substantial, and like Buff said it's best to start w/one compound, then begin stacking in subsequent cycles (preferably by one compound each time).

For your first cycle I would just run the test and go a head and frontload it with 750mg fo the first week.

Week 1-10 Test E 500mg Inject Monday and Friday Frontload first week with 750mg
PCT- Anthony Roberts is the best imo

Not sure what all this means.

Frontloading is double the dosage...1g/1000mgs first week (2 x 500mg shots), then down to 2 x 250mg shots for remainder of the cycle.

[shockwavematty]

Would frontloading the test and give the dbol a miss for this cycle be a good idea, so the cycle would look like this ...

Week 1 - 750 - 1000 mg
week 2 - 12 - 500 mg

[buffgator]

you could, but for your first cycle it is not necessary. My first cycle i only took 250mg of test a week for 12 weeks and I grew like I never have before!

[DesiBoy]

Basically your first cycle should contain not more that 2 different types of gear with a really low dosages so your body doesn't get stressed so much. You will actually feel whenever you are ready for more. That's how it was with me. Good luck bro.

[buffgator]

Basically your first cycle should contain not more that 2 1different types of gear with a really low dosages so your body doesn't get stressed so much. You will actually feel whenever you are ready for more. That's how it was with me. Good luck bro.

one is all you want to really see whats up

[shockwavematty]

thanks guys for the input.. I have decided to just go with the 500 mg per week over 12 of the test e.. Im not goin to bother with frontloading just keep it simple.. Im thinking along the lines of my body is a work im progress and i have many cycles over the comin years to get to my ultimate goal... Now that i have the cycle all organised just a little help with what i should have on hand and what my pct should look like.. I am able to get nolva is that good enough ? As i live in aus and it hard to get pct stuff even.... I have read and heard that water retention can be a problem is there anything i can get to help combat this or does it just come as part of the parcel with test....i really want to give myself the best opportunity to gain as much muscle as i can and to keep as much of my gains as possible so any pointers will be greatly appreciated.. Thanks.

[green22]

test only