Newbie looking for advice on first cycle, help!

[xGI Herringx]

I am a newbie and I'm looking to start my first cycle, please let me know what you think.

stats: 20 years old, 170 lbs, 7-8% BF, 5'7"

goal: gain 15-20 lbs during 8-12 week cycle keeping at least 10-12 lean lbs after PTC

gear: Sustanon 500mg/week

diet: I eat 8 meals a day, 4000 calories, 400-450 g protein, 400-450 carbs, 50-60 g fats

PTC: Clomid 50mg/day for 2 weeks, also some arimidex on hand for any gyno indications

Let me know what you think. I'm more intersted in quality over quantity.

[BIGPHIL]

id go with somthing a bit more basic

Weeks 1-10:- 650mg test cyp or eth
Weeks 1-5:- 50mg Dbol everday
Weeks 1-10:- 1 tab novla each day
Weeks 4-10:- HCG 500 i.u every 5th day to keep balls big (will help with recovery)

*if u wanna run sust corrctly it needs to be taken every 3 days and that isnt easy for a beginnner!!!

Cyp or ethanate will be your slow background tesosterone base! It will be injected every week, you wont really see gains from the cyp until around week 2 so tht is why ive suggested using some orals sucah as dbol to give the cycle a kick start!!!!! you could use test prop for the first 4 weeks but again it would have to be injected every 3 days.(1ml every 3 days) TBH i feel the propinate will yield better solid results than the "bloaty"
Definetly run the HCG from week 4-10 This will keep the balls stimulated and keep them big so that when you come of the cycle they dont have to "regrow" so to speak. Whearas if you didnt take your HCG until the end of your cycle your balls will have reduced in size and thus have to "grow back" which means recovery of HPTA (ur natural test) will be much longer

Since test cyp/eth is slow acting, wait 2 weeks or so until you start your PCT id start
PCT at week 13

WEEK 13:-200mg Clomid everyday+ novla
WEEK 14:-150mg Clomid everyday+ novla
WEEk 15:- 100mg Clomid everyday+ novla
WEEK 16:-50mg Clomid everyday +novla


judging from your stat id say u have quite a fast metabolism. Id up those kcals to 5000. If your wanting more bulk id increase the carbs more. Fats and proteins are fine..



20 is a bit young.. i started when i was 19 and let me tell ya! u change, not at the start but over time and people will notice it!You need to be a bit more mature before you start. if i could turn back time i would have started when i was 23

[mx3]

If you want to run sus you need to inject eod, I would recommend cyp or enth

[Chuck_R]

Like Mx3 said Sust needs to be injected every other day...say 150mg eod..Nothing wrong with Sust..Diet is most important and proper pct.

[JuicedUpCanuk]

Keep It simple this is his first time guys , sust for first time is good choice but you dont need to shoot it every other day . Mabey twice a week 1ml every 3 days have done this cycle and had good gains and no sides . I also wana point out that I think that you are too young to be doing your first cycle . At the age you are at right now you can easly accomplish you goal with proper diet and work out regimen . Its a shame that you are gonna suppress the best test you will ever have in you life ,,,, YOUR OWN .

[MRRoboto]

A lot of guys will agree with me when I say that Test is best when used with Deca. I would also throw in some Dbol for maximum gains. There's a lot to learn, but if you don't do the research first, your gonna make mistakes. I researched for 3 months before my first cycle and I still made mistakes. Forget the sussy. It's just more pain without more gain due to the TestProp in it. TestProp is NOT good for a first or even second cycle. Good luck bro.

[green22]

replace the sus with cyp or enan and you will be good to go. 50mg of d-bol and 650 of test is a little much for a first timer wei***ng a buck 70. keep things simple bro.