test,tbol,winny cycle

[TOOBAD]

Does the following sound okay for a second cycle? My first cycle was 12 weeks of test e and 4 weeks of var and I got some good results. For my second cycle I wanted deca but I am a little concerned about the sides. I think my next cycle will look like this:

week 1-12 test e 500mg/ew
weeks 1-6 tbol 60mg/ed
weeks 10-14 winny 30mg/ed (that is the most I can take)
week 1-12 arimidex .25mg/ed
week 1-12 liv 52

pct to include clomid and nolva

My goals are to gain about 15-20lbs of lean muscle.

Any suggestions?

[liquid2198]

i would eliminate the winny...wouldnt run it at 30mg/day would do atleast 50mg/day but i guess you dont have enough to run it at that dose? (thats just my opinion). I would run the tbol for 8 wks.....but the way u have it set up, i would run the arimidex all the way thru pct and the liv 52 all the way thru as well.

ur goal will prob b reached with that cycle....make sure diet is in check though!

good luck!

[TOOBAD]

i would eliminate the winny...wouldnt run it at 30mg/day would do atleast 50mg/day but i guess you dont have enough to run it at that dose? (thats just my opinion). I would run the tbol for 8 wks.....but the way u have it set up, i would run the arimidex all the way thru pct and the liv 52 all the way thru as well.

ur goal will prob b reached with that cycle....make sure diet is in check though!

good luck!

I wasn't sure if you could run tbol for eight weeks, I thought 6 was about the maximum for any oral??? Also, the reason for taking only 30mg/ed of the winny is because any more than that I get some wierd side effects (lethargic, depressed, no libido) I know it sounds wierd but it is true. I also heard running it up until the start of pct gives a nice "bridge" to recovery.

If I run the arimidex thru pct, isn't that a little overkill on the anti-estrogen? I thought nolva would be good enough?

And this is my first time taking liv 52, do you know how much of this I should take? I believe the brand is Himalaya (from India) but I am not sure of the dosage.

Thanks!

[sitries]

your cycle looks spot on to me matey. you should easily get those gains. some hcg towards the end would be an improvement though.

also - what deca sides are you worried about - the shutdown factor??? coz the androgenic sides are low.

[TOOBAD]

your cycle looks spot on to me matey. you should easily get those gains. some hcg towards the end would be an improvement though.

also - what deca sides are you worried about - the shutdown factor??? coz the androgenic sides are low.

I am a little worried about the hard suppresion on the hpta, deca dick and hairloss. I really don't get any of those sides with test e.

I even bought some cabergoline but decided at the last minute to wait and hopefully use it on my third cycle which will probably include deca or tren.

[sitries]

if you dont get hairloss with test enanthate then you wont get it with deca. its a low androgen and doesnt convert to DHT, so i wouldnt worry. deca dick one the other hand may occur as it will shut youdown hard.