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    next cycle, check it out please

    ok I am going to make some tren from fina soon and then I will have all my gear. so it will go like this.
    weeks 1-10 test cyp 500mgs ew dosed @ 200 mg/ml (split 250 mgs 2x ew)
    weeks 1-4 anadrol 50 @ 50 mgs ed
    weeks 1-8 tren ace 75 0r 100 mgs ed (see how sides go)
    weeks 10-13 test prop 75 mgs ed dosed @ 100 mg/ml
    start pct 3 days after last prop shot.
    I have tamoxifen tabs 20 mg
    cabergoline for on cycle (whats the best dosage for that?) and letro to use throughout at .5 mgs ed
    also a clomid/tamoxifen liquid suspension mix dosed @ clomiphene citrate 50 mgs/ml and tamoxifen citrate 10 mgs/ml
    I also have some winny I thought I could use at the end but think it might be hard on my liver due to the anadrol at weeks 1-4. and both being 17aa compounds. I also have about 6 to 7 ml of deca @ 250 mg/ml could I throw it in there at all just to get rid of it or would that be stupid?
    any suggestions appreciated. also do I need to use any tamox or clomid during cycle?

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    dont use nolva on cycle with 19 nors, it can make gyno symptoms worse

    .5mg of letro ed is overkill, use it at .25mg if you feel any gyno coming on, otherwise it will hinder your gains.

    caber is used .5mg e4d i believe.

    i wouldnt bother with the deca or winny.

    its kind of a busy cycle, make sure you have a good pct ready

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    Quote Originally Posted by dank1970 View Post
    ok I am going to make some tren from fina soon and then I will have all my gear. so it will go like this.
    weeks 1-10 test cyp 500mgs ew dosed @ 200 mg/ml (split 250 mgs 2x ew)
    weeks 1-4 anadrol 50 @ 50 mgs ed
    weeks 1-8 tren ace 75 0r 100 mgs ed (see how sides go)
    weeks 10-13 test prop 75 mgs ed dosed @ 100 mg/ml
    start pct 3 days after last prop shot.
    I have tamoxifen tabs 20 mg
    cabergoline for on cycle (whats the best dosage for that?) and letro to use throughout at .5 mgs ed
    also a clomid/tamoxifen liquid suspension mix dosed @ clomiphene citrate 50 mgs/ml and tamoxifen citrate 10 mgs/ml
    I also have some winny I thought I could use at the end but think it might be hard on my liver due to the anadrol at weeks 1-4. and both being 17aa compounds. I also have about 6 to 7 ml of deca @ 250 mg/ml could I throw it in there at all just to get rid of it or would that be stupid?
    any suggestions appreciated. also do I need to use any tamox or clomid during cycle?
    bump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amorphic View Post
    dont use nolva on cycle with 19 nors, it can make gyno symptoms worse

    .5mg of letro ed is overkill, use it at .25mg if you feel any gyno coming on, otherwise it will hinder your gains.

    caber is used .5mg e4d i believe.

    i wouldnt bother with the deca or winny.

    its kind of a busy cycle, make sure you have a good pct ready
    I agree with everything. I would probably tose the winny in though depending how i felt towards the end. I wouldn't be concerned about the liver

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    I agree with everything. I would probably tose the winny in though depending how i felt towards the end. I wouldn't be concerned about the liver
    what would be a "good" pct for this cycle. would 20 mgs tamox and 10 mgs clomid ed be sufficent? and how many weeks should it be run?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dank1970
    what would be a "good" pct for this cycle. would 20 mgs tamox and 10 mgs clomid ed be sufficent? and how many weeks should it be run?
    i wouldnt recommend that. try this:

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=209758

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    Quote Originally Posted by dank1970 View Post
    what would be a "good" pct for this cycle. would 20 mgs tamox and 10 mgs clomid ed be sufficent? and how many weeks should it be run?
    I've always run 150mg clomid for 3 days 100mgs for 10 and 50mgs for another 10 days. Its an old protocal but always worked well for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    I've always run 150mg clomid for 3 days 100mgs for 10 and 50mgs for another 10 days. Its an old protocal but always worked well for me
    ok I will go with that pct. and just save the deca . when should I discontinue using the caber and letro?

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    dont use the letro unless you start feeling gyno symptoms, i went over that in my previous post. if you use them, use them up until pct and then go into your pct.

    clomid alone isnt the greatest choice for pct with 19nors. dont use letro for pct unless you have nolva in there as well, as the estrogen rebound when coming off letro needs to be controlled with nolva

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amorphic View Post
    dont use the letro unless you start feeling gyno symptoms, i went over that in my previous post. if you use them, use them up until pct and then go into your pct.

    clomid alone isnt the greatest choice for pct with 19nors. dont use letro for pct unless you have nolva in there as well, as the estrogen rebound when coming off letro needs to be controlled with nolva
    ok thanks

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    bump, any one else have any sugesstions on this cycle? I am wanting to start soon so I want to make sure I got it right.

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