1st REAL cycle, is 12wks too long?

[JSola]

So I'm gonna run test p for 12 weeks and I'm not positive what dose I'm gonna be taking. Is this too long? Suggestions on dosing is appreciated as well. 23yrs 5'6" 165 ~14%bf lifting for ~7yrs 2 really seriously. Does anyone suggest a anything to kickstart or just test?

[Big]

Just test is fine for a first cycle, as is 12 weeks. Why prop though? Don't get me wrong I love prop, but I like to shoot it every day, and ed for 12 weeks can get old.

[Amorphic]

why do you want to run prop for 12 weeks, why not run enanthate for 12 since its your first cycle and the injection frequency will be easier to manage. if you're running it for the immediate kick in, do a prop kickstart weeks 1-4 or throw in a dbol kickstart.

its not too long, thats a standard cycle time. I dont see the practicality in it. Enanthate with a kickstart seems to make more sense to me

[JSola]

its what's available, all i can get besides test p is tren a, winny, decca, anadrol, i dont mind the shots either, its kinda sick but i like them a little.

[JSola]

can you give me an example of the difference in dosage when kickstarting

[Big]

If you're up for the shots I say go for it, I like poking myself as well.

[Amorphic]

if you think you can handle it, its not going to be bad, but its impractical, both price wise and injection frequency wise

[Big]

can you give me an example of the difference in dosage when kickstarting

You could use prop to kickstart a test e cycle, but if it's a prop only cycle no need for a kickstart.

[green22]

5'6" 165 @14% and your gonna do roids. GEEEZZZZZZ

[Amorphic]

can you give me an example of the difference in dosage when kickstarting

if you ran a test e cycle of 500mg/w 1-12

your kickstart could simply be test prop 75mg/ed 1-4

or dbol, 40mg/ed 1-4

a prop only cycle doesnt need a kickstart, since the prop is fast acting.

[Amorphic]

You could use prop to kickstart a test e cycle, but if it's a prop only cycle no need for a kickstart.

big, you keep beating me to the replies

[JSola]

awesome, thanx guys, you both have been the most informative and helpful people on this forum and i appreciate both of your help

[JSola]

what dose do u guys suggest?

[duramaxedge]

Brotha.. if this is your first real cycle as you say.. trust some of us that have some cycles under our belts.. When I first start a cycle.. the shots are cool cause you know whats coming... for me though later in the cycle.. the shots get VERY old.. and inconvenient..

[duramaxedge]

what dose do we suggest for what?? your post is all over the place...

[JSola]

i ran winny for a month and was doing it ed, i really dont mind

[JSola]

test p 12 weeks, ed

[Amorphic]

test e 500mg/w 12 weeks
kickstart of your choice, prop or dbol etc.

thats what i would 'suggest' but theres nothing stopping you from running the prop for 12 if its all you have, its just going to be a pain in the ass to inject for 84 days straight

[duramaxedge]

If all you can get is Test P .. run it maybe 8 wks man.. that would be a nice little cycle..