Using Insulin/Diabetic Syringes to inject AS/sight injection

**IMBIGRU** · 12-21-2007, 09:30 AM

ok does anyone use Using Insulin /Diabetic Syringes to injest test / deca / tren ? I was talking to a guy who finished up his whole cycle using Insulin/Diabetic Syringes to inject AS... he said he took his whole cycle in his bicepts and tricepts and added 2 inches doing this... I could not find any treads on this ??? does any one do this??? I been using 21x1

**millionairemurph** · 12-21-2007, 09:37 AM

site injecting aas is not proven to enhance site growth from what ive seen. You could try it but it seems like an unnessary way to build scar tissue up, plus sounds painfull.

if you do it log it and ill follow it.

**IMBIGRU** · 12-21-2007, 09:41 AM

its just to streatch the tissue around the muscles out..... I know it does not cause real growth but is anyone doing this of tried it? will the AS work the same

**Bossman** · 12-21-2007, 09:51 AM

I really believe Ive added size to my delts(all three heads), and tris with site injection of suspension. And, I work out with a guy who put quite a bit of size on his delts with Tren /Test P injections. They now overpower his arms. I have not noticed a difference anywhere else Ive shot though (pecs, bis, glutes, thighs). I also think it might be from the swelling that accompanies each injection causing stretching of the facia but really dont know.

But, I think the slin needle is too short. You want the product shot deeper. I use a 25x1" on all injections.

**wingding** · 12-21-2007, 09:55 AM

my insulin needles are 30gauge. I can barely pull or push aas through a 25 gauge so I don't see insulin needles being very productive.

**millionairemurph** · 12-21-2007, 10:06 AM

i have shot b12 through a 29 ga pin, so maybe water based aas would go through them,

**legobricks** · 12-21-2007, 12:19 PM

water based yes. Oil based.....forget it, it would take an hour to pull 1ml.

**Big** · 12-21-2007, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by legobricks

water based yes. Oil based.....forget it, it would take an hour to pull 1ml.

agreed^

**IMBIGRU** · 12-21-2007, 02:51 PM

ok.... load up a regular pin... then pull the plunger on the insulin pin and fill up the insulin pin and live one little air bubble then carefully put the plunger back in and let the air bubble go out the end

**Big** · 12-21-2007, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by IMBIGRU

ok.... load up a regular pin... then pull the plunger on the insulin pin and fill up the insulin pin and live one little air bubble then carefully put the plunger back in and let the air bubble go out the end

That would address half of the issue, the reason it would be hard to load a slin pin is because the oil won't flow well through such a small gauge needle. Even if you do it the way you listed, you still would need the oil to flow through a tiny needle to exit the syringe. You could possibly heat it up to get the oil to flow, but even then the length of the needles on most slin pins is too short for a nice deep im injection.

**naturalsux** · 12-21-2007, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by wingding

my insulin needles are 30gauge. I can barely pull or push aas through a 25 gauge so I don't see insulin needles being very productive.

i use 29g 1/2 and it does take longer but not much. i only do a cc at a time usually. i dont think it does anything for muscle growth in that area.jmo

**IMBIGRU** · 12-21-2007, 06:56 PM

IT will flow out easy because it is under alot more pressure... trust me!!

**Big** · 12-21-2007, 07:21 PM

I can see your point, I just don't see the advantage over a 25ga 1" syringe. I like to shoot deep in the muscle, I don't see how you could with a 1/2" pin. Could work though, let us know if you try it how it works out.

**gixxerboy1** · 12-21-2007, 08:36 PM

1/2 inst deep enough. Yes you can get oil through it seen people do it

**IMBIGRU** · 12-22-2007, 04:47 AM

I dont think its deep enough either but............. I hvae seen guys get great results doing this.... I just wonder if the AS will release faster at 1/2 inch...
It would probally be fine for fina and fast action stuff ?

**gixxerboy1** · 12-22-2007, 05:41 AM

Originally Posted by IMBIGRU

I dont think its deep enough either but............. I hvae seen guys get great results doing this.... I just wonder if the AS will release faster at 1/2 inch...
It would probally be fine for fina and fast action stuff ?

it realises faster deep im. If yuo get into fat it will take longer and not work effectively. That guy probably added alot of size because oil was just sitting in his biceps

**naturalsux** · 12-22-2007, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

1/2 inst deep enough. Yes you can get oil through it seen people do it

if your skin is THIN enough or low bf, 1/2" is plenty deep enough for site injection.

**fLgAtOr** · 12-22-2007, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by Ima******ger

I can see your point, I just don't see the advantage over a 25ga 1" syringe. I like to shoot deep in the muscle, I don't see how you could with a 1/2" pin. Could work though, let us know if you try it how it works out.

This is pretty much it... It certainly can be done. My homebrews and UGLs were all able to do it. I've done it exaclty as described above, "piggy backing" someone once called it.

I still use them every now and then if I need to shoot tri's, which are very painful for me and always a bloody mess. Or rear delts, when I run out of spots for some reason and need to get creative. But I usually prefer a 1"...easy and versatile. Not a huge advantage with a 1/2" and sightly riskier.

**IMBIGRU** · 12-23-2007, 08:43 AM

what gage of 1" Not for sight injection but I always used 21x1 and one of my gym buddies wanted to borrow some pins and he called me and said why the hell was I using 21 gage!!! I siad thats what I always used ./.... he siad that they "HURT him" and made his leg all sore and that I didnt know what I was doing. Told him I ran fina ed for 3 months with no problems. I have used 25 before but I didnt like how long it took and suspension and winstrol would get clogged do i need to cut down to 23 ? would it make much difference.................... the old sust per loads came with a 22x1.5 so i figured 21 was fine and have used it for years ... I usually shoot my delts mostly,,, glutes some ... but not my quads ... the muscle seems to stiff and tight

**equipped** · 12-23-2007, 08:53 AM

IMBIGRU,

Gauge size is personal preference. What to some may be painful, others are fine with. If you like to put it in and get it done quick use a bigger gauge needle. There is no right or wrong with the gauge size. The important factor is LENGTH. As long as you are deep enough you will be fine. Also sterility.

**powerliftmike** · 12-23-2007, 11:00 AM

Just stick to 1" 18G

**IMBIGRU** · 01-05-2008, 06:50 AM

2" by 18 seem to thick...lol

**meathead320** · 01-05-2008, 01:13 PM

18-23 gauge 1-1.25" IMHO = harpoon.

27 gauge, .5" you cannot go wrong. I use it anywhere cept for my glutes.

For Glute injection you may still want to go with a harpoon.