Deca by itself..

**lankyone13** · 12-24-2007, 12:02 AM

Is not being able to get it up the only reason not to use deca without any kind of test?

**Chuck_R** · 12-24-2007, 12:12 AM

The following link should answer your question..

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199789

**kostakv** · 12-24-2007, 12:15 AM

it should be enough

**lankyone13** · 12-24-2007, 12:49 AM

Then age and natural sex drive must play a factor because it hasn't affected me and the "impotence" also.. My friend and I were both happy with the results from our deca only 3 month cycle.. we trained hard and ate till we almost threw up and it worked jus find.. I was just making sure there were no medical side effects from this cylce.. thanks for your help chuck

**soccer#3** · 12-24-2007, 01:02 AM

not everyone gets deca dick. i've seen people do 300mg/week and actually had an increase in libido/sex. what were ur doses and what were ur gains?

**lankyone13** · 12-24-2007, 12:37 PM

It was deca 350 mg/ml and i pyramided up to 750mg per week.. when i started i weighed about 170 and that was in late july... i now weigh almost 190 and i'm the biggest i've ever been..

**texasmk4** · 12-24-2007, 12:38 PM

two of my friends did a deca cycle with out any test and they never had deca dick problem.. everyone is diff its better to be safe than sorry always have test handy..

**magic32** · 12-24-2007, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by lankyone13

It was deca 350 mg/ml and i pyramided up to 750mg per week .. when i started i weighed about 170 and that was in late july... i now weigh almost 190 and i'm the biggest i've ever been..

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**Ashop** · 12-24-2007, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by lankyone13

Is not being able to get it up the only reason not to use deca without any kind of test?

I would prefer not too...but if you do 300-400mg wk for 8 weeks. do PCT nolva clomid.

**passthetest** · 12-24-2007, 11:02 PM

how old r you lanky?

**lankyone13** · 12-25-2007, 10:00 PM

i'll be 20 in april

**soccer#3** · 12-25-2007, 10:50 PM

i curious abour ur cycle because im considering a deca only cycle too. can u post the entire cycle form start to finish (weeks, doses, pct)?

**Bigmax** · 12-26-2007, 11:22 AM

Ive done deca only cycles and have never had a problem at all...Its all individual..in fact I know bro's who stay on deca year round(i dont recommend this) and they are fine.

**fdrx7man** · 12-26-2007, 12:32 PM

yikes.. I have been avoiding deca cause of deca dic*, i def dont want that!! and if i were to take it, id still have some test handy cause you never know.. and get cialis there too for emergancys!!

**fdrx7man** · 12-26-2007, 12:32 PM

whoops sorry double post :-(

**slayer1983** · 02-01-2008, 04:35 PM

deca is very supresive of test level of the bod

**Panzerfaust80** · 02-01-2008, 06:31 PM

I posted this a few times but I will again.. I did a deca only cycle about 6 yrs ago, was at about 170 lbs @ 5"11 when I started. Did it for a total of 10 weeks, pyramiding up to about 600 mg /wk... no gains till about week 4 i remember all of a sudden I was putting on about 5-10 lbs per WEEK and having ENORMOUS strength gains... put it like this, prior to cycle, I had trouble benching 185.. after cycle I could rep 225 for about 20 times... it was really incredible..

bad news, however, about a month after last shot sex drive went KAPUT and zero erection... aka deca dick for about 2 months.. but alls well and good now... I also took i think 20 mg nolva per day for a month or two after cycle... I kept the majority of my gains, cept maybe for 5 lbs.. Key is to keep diet up and lift even heavier then when u were on the cycle when u get off.. that will keep the muscle in "growth" mode if u will and help u retain more of ur weight... my .02

**Panzerfaust80** · 02-01-2008, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by slayer1983

deca is very supresive of test level of the bod

dosent matter one can still experience tremendous gains if used properly in conjunction with proper rest/diet. Some people dont want the nasty sides of a test, so they opt for deca -only.

**VR4** · 02-01-2008, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by Panzerfaust80

I posted this a few times but I will again.. I did a deca only cycle about 6 yrs ago, was at about 170 lbs @ 5"11 when I started. Did it for a total of 10 weeks, pyramiding up to about 600 mg /wk... no gains till about week 4 i remember all of a sudden I was putting on about 5-10 lbs per WEEK and having ENORMOUS strength gains... put it like this, prior to cycle, I had trouble benching 185.. after cycle I could rep 225 for about 20 times... it was really incredible..

bad news, however, about a month after last shot sex drive went KAPUT and zero erection... aka deca dick for about 2 months.. but alls well and good now... I also took i think 20 mg nolva per day for a month or two after cycle... I kept the majority of my gains, cept maybe for 5 lbs.. Key is to keep diet up and lift even heavier then when u were on the cycle when u get off.. that will keep the muscle in "growth" mode if u will and help u retain more of ur weight... my .02

I read that your work outs should be very minimal during pct, since your body is in a very catabolic state.

**Panzerfaust80** · 02-02-2008, 02:24 PM

Ive never heard of that, to me that sounds like a great way to loose your gains post-cycle by having minimal workouts.

i always thought diet and training determined whether or not ones body is in a catabolic/anabolic state.. I think that nfo u read might have been a bit incorrect..