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    first cycle

    hey every one i no this is going to seem a stupid question to you guys but its my first cycle and i dont want to inject all the time so i have sustanon 250 and was wondering what would be a better cycle.
    sus 250 e5d for 11 wk
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    sus 375 wk for 12
    i no that you will recomend cyp or enth but sus is the only test i can get along with prop. the thing idk is will it matter the 2 days will it make a big difference in blood levels.

    thanx for all the help i get much apreciated

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    also might do it e4d for 11 wks

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    What are your stats and planned pct?

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    19 6'4 240 been liftin for 8 years seriously for 5 and eat about 5k to 7k cals 500g protien eat 6 to 7 meals day

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    pct 20mgs nolva 5 weeks

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    you are going to need a little mroe than that for PCT in my opinion.

    The sust I would shoot NOT LESS than every 3.5 days. Most will disagree with me on shooting that infrequently.

    They more often you shoot it the more stable your blood levels will be and the better you will fell throughout your cycle. As well, you will typically have less side effects as well.

    I like sust myself. I know when I shoot it every 3.5 days (Monday 7am-Fri 7pm) I can tell a slight decline about 24 hours before my next inject. Nothing major, just enough to notice. I also am more aware and have shot enough to know how my body reacts. Likely you would not notice it too badly.

    As for your question, I would do 250 every 3.5days. If you just wanted to do the 375mg a week, then shoot .75ml every 3.5 days. That will give you 187.5mg/inject.

    However, being 240lbs, I would lean more towards the 500mg. Of course, your diet needs to be in check to really reap the benefits.

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    ok but on the syringe will it say how much is in it so i can go like 200 every 4 days

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    bump

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    If you are going to use Sust, shoot EOD. If you only want to shoot twice a week, why use Sust, doesn't make sense. For less injections go with Test E or C.
    And you yourself have to figure out how many ml's you will need to shoot based on the concentration of the gear and the frequency of the shots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by admirals56 View Post
    ok but on the syringe will it say how much is in it so i can go like 200 every 4 days
    I don't mean to be rude, but. . .someone is going to. So I might as well go first because I know I am gentle. . .LOL

    There is a certain amount of math skills involved in doing a cycle. Which, it seems you might need to be taught or research to learn.

    Since this is your first cycle, I will be the good guy and help a bro out. Even though you can find your answers with a little efforts.

    But do me one HUGE HUGE favor. Do a lot more learning before you start jabbing yoruself. The mere fact that you do not already know what I am about to teach you, tells me, and others, you are NOT ready to go down this road...yet.

    Your gear will come in a multi-use vial. Just like the doctors use to give meds. On the bottle there will be a concentration like so:

    For sust:
    250mg/ml

    For Test Propionate
    100mg/ml

    etc.

    So you have to do the calculations based on your cycle.

    If you do sust EOD, I would go 125MG (.5ml). That will give you an average of 437.5mg/week. Plenty for a first cycle.

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    ya i no your thinkin im stupid and dont no what im talkin about but thats fine i no everything i need to no about sus but i no nothing about the syringes and how they look i no u need to asperate an i will be dosing it at 175 monday thursday now dont get me wrong i no the more you inject it the better but i think i will do just fine on twice a week and you can shoot it once a week but the more the better so thanx for your help

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    Quote Originally Posted by admirals56 View Post
    ya i no your thinkin im stupid and dont no what im talkin about but thats fine i no everything i need to no about sus but i no nothing about the syringes and how they look i no u need to asperate an i will be dosing it at 175 monday thursday now dont get me wrong i no the more you inject it the better but i think i will do just fine on twice a week and you can shoot it once a week but the more the better so thanx for your help
    If you know everything you need to about sust you would know not to shoot it just twice a week.

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    im not going to argue with you because you are right its just ive heard tons of ppl say theyve shot it once a week and got good results and kept 12 to 17 pounds. so atleast im not shooting it once a week and you no what if the needle doesnt hurt i will shoot eod but thanx for the advice

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    could i do that shoot it mon thurs and the next week eod or would i f*** myself up that way

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    The reason I advise eod shots is that I've cycled for years, and from personal experience I had more sides like acne due to fluctuation in blood levels when I did not shoot eod. Gains were about the same, and some are not even prone to acne, so you could be fine. Worst case scenario you will experience more sides than otherwise, but they are temporary so in the end you'll be fine either way.

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    thank you and ive heard you should shoot 2 hours prior to w/o because ull have alot of energy and test is spiking is this true

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    shooting before working does not give any advantage to my knowledge. I shoot my Test E Thursday nights and monday mornings to try and keep it as clsoe to 3.5 days as possible. Don`t worry about when your going to work out worry about keeping your blood levels as stable as possibel to reduce side effects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by admirals56 View Post
    ok but on the syringe will it say how much is in it so i can go like 200 every 4 days
    The syringe is not going to tell you how much you are shooting. You will have to do a simple math equation. Divide the amount you want per week by the ml/mg on the bottle (most likely 250 for sust), This will give you the total per week in cc's to shoot. If you are shooting twice a week, divide this number by 2 to give you the correct amount per shot. You may know about sust but it makes me nervous that you do not know the calculations, which is probably the most important as knowing what the aas do doesn't mattter if you are under or over dosing yourself risking both your money and health.

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    Quote Originally Posted by admirals56 View Post
    thank you and ive heard you should shoot 2 hours prior to w/o because ull have alot of energy and test is spiking is this true
    I thought you knew everything there is to know about Sustanon? Why are you asking this question if you already know the answer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by admirals56 View Post
    thank you and ive heard you should shoot 2 hours prior to w/o because ull have alot of energy and test is spiking is this true
    Hold the wagon train junior.

    First, you come asking pretty legit questions. Then you spout you know everything about Sust, then you ask a bone head question like this, which take you bake to knowing nothing in most people's eyes.

    #1) Don't believe all you hear.
    #2) Lots of boards on this topic are moderated by idiots. I have NEVER gotten incorrect information or answers here. The Mods/Vets and others so very quickly smash idiots giving bad info here.
    #3) if you act like you know it all, people here will treat you like you know it all. (stop answering your questions)

    If you take the time to understand esters (propionate, enanthate, cypionate, acetate and others. . .) you will quickly be able to use deductive reasoning to know that this is not only bullshit, its imposible with estered tests.

    (lets not go into 1MT, etc...the dudes head would explode trying to absorb all the info)

    Learning you need much to do young padawan.

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    You need to inject sustanon eod hands down if you want to inject every 3.5 days go with test E of cyp if not get use to frequent injections.

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