2nd Cycle..

**RockyX** · 01-02-2008, 01:15 AM

Okay well here I am planning my second cycle. Maybe looking something like this.

Test E (500/wk) Wks: 1-12
Tren E or A (300/wk 50/ed respectively) Wks: 1-12
Winny (50/ed) Wks:1-4 & 9-12
Clen (120mcgs/day) Wks: 1-3, 7-9, 13-15

Does this seem okay? I'm hoping to get Tren E to cut down on the number of stabs. I had wonderful results on my first cycle which was Test E and Winny.
And I'm going to go ahead and ask it...i'm sure its been asked before and i fell like a dumbass for not knowing bcuz its probably the obvious answer but...if i were to take Tren E and Test E both twice a week on the same day..can I mix the two and inject at the same time through one syringe? Any comments are welcome.

**duramaxedge** · 01-02-2008, 10:22 AM

You can mix the tren and test.. no prob. I think the tren and test look good.. Might check on the durations.. you may want to quit the tren at week 10 and run the test out 2 more works (to 12 like you have it)...

Ill bump this so someone can chime in..

and my 2cc, Id run the winny at the end only..

**mx3** · 01-02-2008, 10:50 AM

The tren should stop at wk 10. Run the winni wk 6-12. tren is a powerful compound with alot of sides and running it 2nd cycle might be a little premature.

**mx3** · 01-02-2008, 10:51 AM

imo prop would be a better addition to a cutting cycle than test e because of bloat. whats your pct look like?

**RockyX** · 01-02-2008, 12:10 PM

Yeah I saw the bloat with test e last time...i would like to get around it but i've never done ed injections and i've always only done my quads..but thinkin' they won't hold up to ed injects....I'm just a weenie...anywho will def move winny to end. My PCT is anthony roberts protocall last cycle I ran Aromasin through the duration of my cycle..not sure if it did anything but its nice to have it there just incase.

**basshead69** · 01-02-2008, 12:26 PM

looks good but I would go with prop for a cutting cycle and tren a since you will be doing frequent injections with the prop just start shooting glutes and delts and your quads and you'll be good.

**RockyX** · 01-04-2008, 01:00 AM

ok so i've pretty much decided on prop and tren a....however i can only get tren a in 75mg/ml ....not quite sure how to measure out .6666666 ml lol. Soooo is 75mg ed too much for a second cycle?

**jAcKeD!!!!** · 01-04-2008, 01:28 AM

nope, 75mg ed is fine

**RockyX** · 01-04-2008, 10:52 AM

Okay so I'm going to run prop instead of enanthate . Does it matter if you take prop ed or eod since Tren A is normally taken ed. Or can Tren A be taken eod as well? I also read that tren is known to suppress thyroid hormone production. Is T3 a necessity or just a preference for some people? Right now cycle looks like this..

Test P (100/eod) Wks: 1-12
Tren A (75/ed) Wks: 1-10
Winny (50/ed) Wks:9-12
Clen (120mcgs/day) Wks: 1-3, 7-9, 13-15

**RockyX** · 01-05-2008, 04:26 AM

bump

**RockyX** · 01-08-2008, 07:41 PM

Do u guys recommend Tren A ed or eod? Is the preference basically based on the amount of sides you get or what? I've heard people say that they get less sides on 50 a day rather than 100 eod. Just curious your opinions.

**duramaxedge** · 01-08-2008, 07:45 PM

Have you ran it before?? Less sides with Everyday..

Why you running the cycles so long??? I think that is a little much..

Id do 10/8 or 8/6

**duramaxedge** · 01-08-2008, 07:52 PM

Long Ester Cycles 10/12/(14) weeks max

Short Ester Cycles 6/8 wks

These are my preferences...

Id do this..
Prop wk 1-8 75mg ed
Tren A wk 1-7 50mg ed (could go with 75 or 100mg ed, depends on experience)
Winny- wk 2-8 50mg ed

PCT thereafter

**RockyX** · 01-09-2008, 12:25 AM

You know...I started off planning to do all the long esters (Test E and Tren E) but decided midway to do prop and Tren A and just kinda kept the cycle length from the long esters. So you think an 8 wk cycle would be better? Especially considering this is my 2nd (3rd if you count M1T) cycle?

**M302_Imola** · 01-09-2008, 06:50 AM

Yeah since you kicked the long esters to the curb I wouldn't run your cycle for longer than 10 weeks...those short esters don't need the 5 weeks to "kick in". Did you decide to cut the clen out of your cycle?

**RockyX** · 01-09-2008, 12:26 PM

No I haven't really thought about the clen . Do u think I don't need? Except maybe in PCT?

**mx3** · 01-09-2008, 12:45 PM

I would run test for 10 wks. tren for 8wks. winni last 6wks right up to pct and keep the clen for however long you feel the need. jmo

**mx3** · 01-09-2008, 12:47 PM

this cycle might be a bit much for a 2nd but if sides get too much to handle your running all short esters so you can discontinue if needed.

**RockyX** · 01-11-2008, 02:28 PM

Thanks for the help guys. Cycle will look like this:

Prop 100mg eod wks: 1-10
Tren A 75mg ed wks: 1-8
Winny 50mg ed wks: 5-10
Clen 120mcgs ed on 3wks off 3wks

Look good to you guys? I will also be doing cardio 5 days a week for 30 mins on an empty stomach with a strict moderate carb diet.