Critique

[afro jones]

help a brotha out

I’m 26 years old 5’7 205 lbs. X college athlete, I’m tired of looking like an athlete and want to make the jump to look like a freak. I’ve been lifting forever it seems like and now I’m working against genetics. I’ve taken Winny and Cyp before but I had no idea what I was doing when I was about 20-21. So I’ve done some research and came up with a pretty good bulking cycle I think...

Deca 500mg a week for 10 weeks
Cypionate 500mg a week for 10 weeks
10 mg Novla for 10 weeks (gyno prone)

Question 1 How should I divide up the shots? Go every other day 250 Cyp take a day of then 250 Deca take a day off….keep that going or hit then on the same day and wait 4-5 days??? If I did that can I inject these two at the same time?

Question 2 If I’m taking down 300 grams of protein (man I’m gonna have gas) a day how many carbs should I be putting down?

Then Pct using Nolva and Clomid for 3 weeks (Learned that the hard way!!)

Thanx guys

[KJSolid]

I would do the shots twice a week. I like to do them Sunday morning and Wednesday night but any seperation of 3.5 days would be fine. I would eat about 800-1000 grams of carbs, mostly rice and noodles maybe some oats too. good luck.

[admirals56]

it seems you need to do alittle more research.i still havent done a cycle and have been researching for 4 years and still learning new things. u shoud up your protien to about 400 grams and 5k to 6k cals but if your going to do a cycle i would say do:

deca 400mgs 10 wks
test c 500mgs 12 wks

[KJSolid]

I dont know. I would probably up the protein a bit too but I think that 1.5g per pound is not bad. 2 would be ideal but its up to him.

[admirals56]

ya im just trying to alow him to get the best results

[KJSolid]

right on

[getfit28]

help a brotha out

I’m 26 years old 5’7 205 lbs. X college athlete, I’m tired of looking like an athlete and want to make the jump to look like a freak. I’ve been lifting forever it seems like and now I’m working against genetics. I’ve taken Winny and Cyp before but I had no idea what I was doing when I was about 20-21. So I’ve done some research and came up with a pretty good bulking cycle I think...

Deca 500mg a week for 10 weeks
Cypionate 500mg a week for 10 weeks
10 mg Novla for 10 weeks (gyno prone)

Question 1 How should I divide up the shots? Go every other day 250 Cyp take a day of then 250 Deca take a day off….keep that going or hit then on the same day and wait 4-5 days??? If I did that can I inject these two at the same time?

Question 2 If I’m taking down 300 grams of protein (man I’m gonna have gas) a day how many carbs should I be putting down?

Then Pct using Nolva and Clomid for 3 weeks (Learned that the hard way!!)

Thanx guys

I'm planning on running pretty much the same thing here soon but not quite.. Anyway, from what I've heard & read you should not take Noval & Deca together at the same time bro (not a good Idea)...

[mx3]

deca 200mg 2xwk, test c 250mg 2xwk. the deca should run 10wks and the test should run 12wks. wait two weeks after last injection to start pct. Inject together same pin. dont run the nolva. nolva is a serm, serms can make prog related sides worse. you need to run an aromatase inhibitor like arimidex. you should already know how to eat. if not you need to go to the diet forum and get it in check before you start. pct should last 4-6wks and you should include an ai with your nolva and clomid.
breakdown:
deca 400mg wk 10wks
test 500mg wk 12wks
wk 14-18 pct

[chitownhoker]

Whats the problem with taking nolva with Deca? What would you take as an anti estrogen during a deca cycle, because im gyno prone too, and thats what i was going to take during my cycle

[mx3]

Whats the problem with taking nolva with Deca? What would you take as an anti estrogen during a deca cycle, because im gyno prone too, and thats what i was going to take during my cycle

I just answered that!

[chitownhoker]

Ha i know! i was in the middle of typeing my question when you answered, ha

[jAcKeD!!!!]

deca 200mg 2xwk, test c 250mg 2xwk. the deca should run 10wks and the test should run 12wks. wait two weeks after last injection to start pct. Inject together same pin. dont run the nolva. nolva is a serm, serms can make prog related sides worse. you need to run an aromatase inhibitor like arimidex. you should already know how to eat. if not you need to go to the diet forum and get it in check before you start. pct should last 4-6wks and you should include an ai with your nolva and clomid.
breakdown:
deca 400mg wk 10wks
test 500mg wk 12wks
wk 14-18 pct

well said.

[afro jones]

thanx guys i'll check this stuff out and get back to ya!!!

[10nispro]

This may be petty but I believe from the research I have done, the deca should be run wks 1-12 and the test wks 1-14 if you want all the benefits you are talking about achieving. Start you pct 2 wks after the last test injection. I like hookers pct. I do agree with mix and inject every 3.5 days. The main thing to remember is if you want to grow, you have to eat like a wild banshee.

[Longball]

you have to eat like a wild banshee

first time I heard it reffered to like that