Test E and EQ for 2nd cycle Q's

[dawkins0]

I am 190lbs., 6'1, 23 years old.

My first cycle was the typical test 500mg/w and dbol 20mg/ed.

I was planning on trying to run a lean mass cycle with still test e but was also wondering if there were a better test for it, i just liked the twice a week injections. Also about how much EQ should I run a week and it that alright for my second cycle.

I appreciate it.

[dawkins0]

and my bf is 13%

[JAY_WD]

I ran test e 600mg EW and EQ 600mg EW for my first cycle.

Since you were looking for lean gains i would go for test prop but that will need to be shot ED. Prop would be better than enan or cyp because there is less bloat associated with prop.

As for the EQ, from experience, i would run 800mg EW at a minimum and for no less than 12 weeks.

I didnt start to see the full effects of EQ until around week 9-10. Got very vascular.

[peachfuzz]

well not saying Jay is wrong but i disagree about prop having less bloat. test will cause bloat no matter what but since its not long estered its noticed and controlled sooner. as far as EQ goes im currently running the same compounds you have proposed with EQ at 400mg/week and i will agree it hasnt really started to kick in untill week 6-7. should i choose to run it again it will be at 600mg/week. this is where most users agree EQ produces the greatest result to side effect ratio. definately run for 12 week minimum.

as far as your stats are concerned im not knocking you but i think you could grow some more without AAS. dont blow your load this early in the game. hopefully youve got a long road ahead of you.

[jAcKeD!!!!]

well not saying Jay is wrong but i disagree about prop having less bloat. test will cause bloat no matter what but since its not long estered its noticed and controlled sooner. as far as EQ goes im currently running the same compounds you have proposed with EQ at 400mg/week and i will agree it hasnt really started to kick in untill week 6-7. should i choose to run it again it will be at 600mg/week. this is where most users agree EQ produces the greatest result to side effect ratio. definately run for 12 week minimum.

as far as your stats are concerned im not knocking you but i think you could grow some more without AAS. dont blow your load this early in the game. hopefully youve got a long road ahead of you.

read the question before writing a story on something that hasnt been asked.

yes prop outta all the test causes least bloat so yes prop is best for leaning as far a test.

[peachfuzz]

he asked if there was a better test than enanthate for a LEAN MASS CYCLE. he then asked for suggestions on how much EQ to run. then he asked if it was allright for a second cycle so i gave him my experience with the same cycle.

where did my story venture off topic?

if you have a bone to pick then open forums are not the place to do it.

also can you please enlighten me with some scientific data showing prop produces less bloat. thanks. your the best.

[jAcKeD!!!!]

so what ur tryin to say is out of the tests which has been mentioned u dont think prop has least bloat?

what has been mentioned before is dawkins is lookin for a test for the best lean cycle.

[elvis1280]

prop is used with cutting cycles or bulking. but pros use it mainly for cutting. it does cause less bloat

[peachfuzz]

some users say prop produces less bloat. others report no difference between esters. is there scientific proof showing that prop in fact causes less bloat. or is this just reiterated time and time again with no factual evidence to back it up. i have yet to find any. that is all i am saying.

[sitries]

test is test! they are the same - just have differnt esters. ppl use it in cutting cycles because its fast acting and cutting cycles are typically shorter - therefore rendering prop the better type of test

[peachfuzz]

test is test! they are the same - just have differnt esters. ppl use it in cutting cycles because its fast acting and cutting cycles are typically shorter - therefore rendering prop the better type of test

thank you

[dawkins0]

i appreciate the feedback, also should the eq be split up into twice a week injections like test e?

thanks guys

[peachfuzz]

yes. do you plan to frontload?

[duramaxedge]

dawkins I would...