First Cycle Situation

[bootkampboy]

Hi, i am 22 yrs old, 6'1 194 lbs and probably around 10% bf. i am looking to put on a few pounds (maybe 10) and gain as much strength as i can. i have always had the goal that i want to be so ripped that it scares really old people(just a joke 6 or 7% would be nice). I have been moving closer to that goal ever since i made some big lifestyle and diet changes. but i still would like to be leaner and stronger, the weight is not a big deal to me. A friend of mine gave me some EQ he had and told me to take 1cc a week for ten weeks. i have heard that all cycles should be test based but he told me that i would lose much of my gains after coming off of it and i definitley don't want that. I have read EQ is very versatile and it can help me with my goal of gaining strength and dropping bf. When i asked him what to use for PCT he chuckled thinking it was a little ridiculous for such a small cycle. I have had similar responses from other experienced guys, should i be worried about this at all? Also i'm wondering if i should continue using the supps i am on. i think i should discontinue them and start them back again just before i go off the EQ since i have no pct as of yet to help me keep my gains. (supps include NOX-CG3 and Ephedrine and now milk thistle) thanks in advance for the help!

[juicenchris2989]

first cycle test 500 mgs 10 wks or 12wks nice and simple your friend doesnt know anythign about aas dont listen to him you came to the right place

[juicenchris2989]

ur gonna need a ptc

[bootkampboy]

all the stuff i have read about pct is really confusing to me. i don't know much about the dosages and all the different products. should i try to buy some clomid or arimidex somewhere?

[juicenchris2989]

ya i kno it gets really confusing hell i still dont have it down perfect but on a basic cycle with just test you will be fine with some hcg and novadex

[juicenchris2989]

i dont like clomid that much cuz its alot more expensive need larger dose than the novadex

[bootkampboy]

I just began the EQ a week ago

[Big]

I just began the EQ a week ago

wow bro, you've been a member for over a year, you really should have researched this before you started.

[duramaxedge]

PCT in simplicity is this.. Once you are suppressed during a cycle.. You want to restart your natural production for a few reasons.. Ill list some.

a. KEEP YOUR GAINS.
b. feel better
c. libido
d. etc.

Read about PCT in the PCT forum
Read about Diet in the Diet Forum

As far as running Eq alone.. I would not..

As juicenchris said.. we push that new guys run the standard test c or e for 10/12 wks as a good controlled enviroment for new guys to see how their body reacts.. You will grow on the test.. (seeing your diet is in check)

Go to the educational threads and start reading, come back for any questions

[bootkampboy]

i had every intention of using some test for my first cycle and running proper pct but when my friend hooked me up i guess i got a little excited. are you reccomending i stop the EQ after one week and just wait until i can get some test? Everyone online is telling me how important pct is and raving about test then everyone offline(my sources) are telling me that it really doesn't matter about PCT and the EQ will work fine for my first cycle. i'm a little confused

[duramaxedge]

If youve only taking 1 shot (one week) or whatever.. yes.. I would stop taking it ..

Educate before you medicate brotha


If your guys dont have test for sale.. and they have Eq.. They cant sell you EQ if they tell you that you need test too... People are very deceiving sometimes... and they prey on guys like you that are slightly gullable (no offense).. I been in those exact same shoes

[juicenchris2989]

some ppl dont run pct but most do and the ones that dont probally dont know much about aas. I would stop the eq wait till you get your hands on some test and proper pct then do your cycle

[bootkampboy]

he actually gave it to me for free because he wasn't going to be able to use it by its expiration date next year so i don't think he preyed on me i think he just doesn't really know.

[duramaxedge]

I concur... Store it in a dark dry place and buy you some Cypionate or enanthe

[longhorn814]

Eq is a very weak steroid..1cc/wk (whatever the concentration) wont do much for ya at all..you need to stop and research what your doing and stop listening to your friends b/c they dont know what the hell theyre talking about..do your own research and draw your own conclusions..alot of people have no clue how to use steroids correctly

[bootkampboy]

i'm taking 250mg once a week. is this such a crime against humanity? my research led me to believe that pct is absolutely essential after a cycle like this. however the guys at the gym scoff at the idea ,noting that EQ is a weak roid and that if i am that worried about losing my gains i should lower the doasages in the latter weeks and ween off of it a little. they suggested to add in a prohormone after the cycle is complete. this mixed info is seriously pissing me the **** off, why can't it be simpler?

[longhorn814]

youve got thousands of threads on here that will give you good advice and a couple dudes from the gym telling ya something else..from my experience most people in the gym have no clue how to use steroids properly..the best advice will come from this site...250mg/wk of Eq will do next to nothing for you..but hey do what ya want

[FREAK]

ur gonna need a ptc

what the hell is ptc only jk bro

[basshead69]

Eq should be ran at 500-600mg a week with test it would be a waste to run the Eq by itself just be patient dont listen to those dumb asses at the gym and do your own research. For a first cycle I would just run test E or cyp at 500mg a week mabey throw in some d-bols for the first 4 weeks until the test kicks in save the EQ for a future cycle JMO bro

[bootkampboy]

keeping in mind this is my first cycle and you don't think 250mgs a week will do anything at all? i'm not looking to make it up to 220 or anything like that. just some strength and definition and maybe a little weight gain is all i want. i'm not a bodybuilder as i think many of you are and that is why you consider it a waste. i've read that 250 is a lower dose but that it would still help.