test and winny

[admirals56]

well i have previously stated that i was going to do a sustanon cycle for first cycle but i have a great deal on pharm grade cyp so im ganna do that in stead at 400 mgs wk..

ive done alot of research and im not a body builder but a football player and was wondering why a winny only cycle is bad if you have a pct???

[admirals56]

its not a 19 nor so its not as bad a a deca or tren only cycle??? correct me if im wrong please

[duramaxedge]

This is takin from the Steroid profiles page which is open for anyone to view anytime..

As with 99% of steroids, however, it´s important to note that suppression of your natural hormonal levels will occur (though perhaps not to the extent that it will with many other steroids).(10) As with running virtually any compound, testosterone supplementation (i.e. running test in a cycle containing Winstrol) is warranted to avoid possible sexual dysfunction.

[duramaxedge]

You are right.. I wouldnt be as suppressive as Deca.. I just want give it the oppurtunity of suppressed HPTA.. I have ran it alone.. What dose are you thinking...

What are your stats.
What is your experience?
What are your goals?

Why not stick to the test only protocal for first timers??
If stubborn, why not run cyp and winny?

[juicenchris2989]

^^^^

[admirals56]

no i am going to run test cyp alone for my first cycle. for my second cycle with my diet i hope to help lose some bf for preseason football with wiinny.. i no it will dry my joints but i will stop a month before so its better..
my stats are 6'4 248 15% bf.
5 years serious lifting but with sports everybody is juicin so if i dont ill be left in the dust at a d1 college.
for first cycle gain as much size and strength as possible with a 6500 callerie diet.
winny only cycle just up as stated in first sentence.

[admirals56]

oOo and dosage is 50 mgs ed

[juicenchris2989]

huh you went from saying ur first cycle to talk about ur second or soemthing didnt get it sorry and how long you planning on running that winni i hope not more than 6wks.But i do understand what you mean about everyone juicen before college ball starts up again

[admirals56]

umm no ill be doing it for 4-5 weeks depending on how my body reacts to it.. my diet will be good for both just wanting to get that extra boost u no.. but duramax asked me about first cycle so i was answering that.. but i was saying test only for first cycle then a winny only for second cycle did you understand that.. it was really unclear before sorry

[duramaxedge]

Why not run the winny at the end of your cyp cycle?

[admirals56]

because i think that may be to early but now im thinking your one smart mofo cause i never thought of that ill just start my cycle about 2 or 3 weeks later thanx for the help

[powerliftmike]

Test should be run as first cycle. you do NOT have to run test in every cycle, but many times you will feel like crap and have libido/erectile problems if you dont.

[admirals56]

i dont really care about libido as long as it comes back lol.... how bad would a winny only cycle supress me about??? remember im young..

[admirals56]

thanx powermike

[admirals56]

anybody

[Big]

Ok, I haven't typed this in a few minutes, guess it's over-due.
Test should be the base of any cycle.
winny only? no.
dbol only? huh-uh.
deca only? not even.
tren only? I don't think so...
seeing a trend?

[admirals56]

yes but i no not not to do a dbol only or a 17 nor only cycle. but winny seems different to me because its not as surrpresuve as others.

but i am going to do:

test c 400 mgs wk 1-10
winny 50 mgs ed wk 7-12
pct next day after last use of winny
20mgs nolva 5 wks
1500mgs milk thistles ed wks 7-13

[admirals56]

what do you guys think of my first cycle.. i no most will say test only for first cycle but i will change my diet at wk 7 to lose bf and having winny help with that

[legobricks]

Need more than just nolva for PCT. You wont see much outta the winny and honesly is a waste of money unless your doing a cutting cycle and your getting low BF%. For PCT check out Anthony Roberts PCT by clicking on the PCT in blue here. Clomid and nolva or Aromasin and nolva would work. Read up and youll get your answer. Why set on taking winny?

[legobricks]

what do you guys think of my first cycle.. i no most will say test only for first cycle but i will change my diet at wk 7 to lose bf and having winny help with that

So your trying to do what? Why not do a lean bulk and cut out the winny. You would save much money that could be spent on food instead which is better.

[admirals56]

well i have a great deal on cyp and i helped my friend out with financial problems a year ago and hes got some oral winny and is giving it to me to even up

[legobricks]

well i have a great deal on cyp and i helped my friend out with financial problems a year ago and hes got some oral winny and is giving it to me to even up

I dont htink you should consume it. Take it from him then ship it to me! Hahah j/k bro, Honestly if I were you I would do a lean bulk and then add the winny in towards the end like you have mapped out. THis way you will be able to see the effects of winny. Honesly tho, remember you are young so save it for a second cycle. Run just test this cycle as a bulker then next cycle run a lean bulk and throw the winny in at the end. Whichever you choose tho, remember to have your diet 100% for your cycle to see the results you want.

[admirals56]

thanx for the advice lego will use it

[duramaxedge]

I guess ill stop responding to threads.. I wrote that its suppressive on HPTA... not as bad as Deca but still supressive..


******ger.. dont you hate it when you give someone the answer to their question.. and since it isnt what they want to hear.. they keep digging and trying to do a 360 and dig for the answer they want? Sorta seems pointless to be honest huh?