All Oral Cycle

[rain88]

Hi there guys, just found this forum and im glad as im about to start an all oral cycle but the link i had that showed me what dosage i need for each day is now dead.

So far this is what i saved. This shows what dosage i need for the whole cycle. What i remember d-bol was started at 20-40mg a day for a few weeks. But the rest im lost. Here it is:

dianabol 1680mg
stanozolol(winstrol) 2100mg
anavar 840mg
hcg clomid (Not sure if i need this when i have nolva)
nolva 560mg

Please if anyone could tell me an oral cycle plus daily dosage plus weeks. I would be more than thankful.

[nowdenlid]

dont do an oral only ycle bro its a waste of time imo if you want to run a cycle go with a test only @ 500mgs ew and a good pct ,stick around here and get reading and you ill know what is best for you in a couple of months.....

o yes what are your stats and goals

age

weight

body fat

ect

[FREAK]

why do you wanna do all orals

[joe2009]

an oral only cycle would be a total waste of money in my opinion, i agree that test is the way to go

[IM MACHO]

all oral isn't the way yo go! is this your first cycle? we need stats bro? however if you are going to run all oral u better drink a lot of water and get yourself a good liver aide and proper pct! educate before you medicate!

[longhorn814]

are you afraid of needles? You do realize that oral steroids are way harder on your body than injectables? Oral steroids put extra stress on your liver and totally destroy your cholesterol profile..and you want to take 3? not a good idea

[The Deuce]

Why do all newbs want to do ALL ORAL CYCLES...

I'll tell you why !! Because they think that they are miracle pills... thats why... pop a few of these and I'll get BIG !! Sometimes people amaze me.. wait no they don't they disgust me. Ignorance of something doesn't mean you need to be stupid it just means you don't know...do research guys. While Orals are a great addition to a cycle.. they arent by any means a whole cycle by themselves. Sorry I am coming off like a dikk but I am sick of seeing this over and over again.... Good Luck and Happy Learning Fellas

[im83931]

Just because someone online has an all oral cyle that you can purchase doesnt mean its a good idea.

[Renesis]

Well thats not quite true. Anavar is a very mild steroid as is oral turinabol. You can run them separately and achieve good results such as a nice gain in LBM without very much bf% in fact you could even lose some. You won't gain like if you were on an injectable cycle but you won't be suppressed badly either and the pct for these two is very simple.

[KJSolid]

Make this the fifth thread in the last 4 days that has an all oral cycle. Add a new liver to what you will want on the list of things you need. An oral cycle is not what you want to do. Also as a previous post asked what are your stats. Age, height, weight, bf, cycle history.

[Renesis]

squawk

[rain88]

Ok stats:

Im 21yrs old
Weight :187LBS
Goal is to just get big.

I know about oral's do stress the liver more but ill be goin on and then taking rest for the same amount of time i was on the cycle.

Its just that i do not have anyone to inject it for me. Could someone recommend me a good oral cycle?

[longhorn814]

Well thats not quite true. Anavar is a very mild steroid as is oral turinabol. You can run them separately and achieve good results such as a nice gain in LBM without very much bf% in fact you could even lose some. You won't gain like if you were on an injectable cycle but you won't be suppressed badly either and the pct for these two is very simple.

thank you, im tired of seeing people parrot that an all oral cycle is bad..granted its not the best cycle, but there are certain orals you can run alone (var, tbol, winny), while others such as dbol or drol is pointless to run alone bc you get big and bloated and then lose most of it. If you run var or winny alone, dont expect much muscle gain, but it can beneficial if youre trying to cut some bf and trying to preserve some muscle and have minimal HTPA supression.

[FREAK]

squawk

do we have some parroting going on here?

[Renesis]

An oral tbol or anavar cycle is good. Do not take more than 1 oral at once. Why do you need someone to inject for you are you afraid of needles? You can inject yourself and there are plenty of good sites that show you how to as well. The thing is oral cycles can only go so far which is why injectables are usually the way to go. Injecting also causes less stress on the liver and the gains are greater. You won't "just get big" with orals, but you can certainly gain a decent amount. Don't expect anything over 10lbs with anavar and even that is generous. You are looking more in the vicinity of 5 solid lbs of muscle with a good amount of hardening up. Tbol will also give solid muscle that is easy to keep, but again it won't be anything vast.

[Renesis]

do we have some parroting going on here?

Yeah it is you! j/k Longhorn seems to have taken care of it for me

[bigguys]

Thx Renesis, that helped me.

[Renesis]

Thx Renesis, that helped me.

Well so long as I helped at least 1 person than I am happy.

[FREAK]

me too

[The Deuce]

It's not that I don't agree with an all oral cycle ... it's just that i dunno whatever it's beating a dead horse.. people are going to do what they want to do.. NO ... this is my point.. the reason i am all gung ho over people starting an all oral cycle for their first cycle is that it doesnt give them much knowledge base at all... it is an unwritten rule somewhere that Test 500mgs for 12 weeks is the beat possible choice for a FIRST go around with using AAS. Then afterwards they can do some experimentation on different compounds. I have done a TBOL only cycle before... it did help me out a lil bit but nothing to write home about.. IMO it was a waste of 10 weeks of my life .. (6 for the cycle 4 for PCT) ... Everyone is different and I am sharing my experiences.. knowledge... and opinions...

[rain88]

How about this dianabol cycle:


or

This Anavar cycle:

[FREAK]

pretty serious chart u got there

[longhorn814]

did you not see my post..dbol and anadrol are not something you want to run alone..gives you quick water weight gains and maybe some muscle...which you will lose as soon as you stop..now maybe someone with some cycles under their belt..might be able to keep some of those gains b/c theyve been thru PCT before and know what to expect plus they most likely know how to eat..a newbie has little chance of keeping anything...oral cycles for bulking are stupid..oral for cutting are ok..notice I said OK, but even thats not ideal

[KJSolid]

The following are the reasons I am saying that this all oral cycle is bad longhorn:
1) cycle consists of three orals.
2) He is trying to bulk not cut
3) This is his first cycle
4) His knowledge is not tremendously high as shown with the charts that he posted

[Renesis]

KJ Just read my post I already covered your points.

[longhorn814]

The following are the reasons I am saying that this all oral cycle is bad longhorn:
1) cycle consists of three orals.
2) He is trying to bulk not cut
3) This is his first cycle
4) His knowledge is not tremendously high as shown with the charts that he posted

couldnt agree more!!

[rain88]

Okay im convinced oral is bad for me, i will do injections. Will read up on how and the rest. Would you point me in a way for me to find a good cycle?

[longhorn814]

here is one place

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=120894

use the search button..tons of info out there

[rain88]

thanks.

[southmadejd]

Why do all newbs want to do ALL ORAL CYCLES...

I'll tell you why !! Because they think that they are miracle pills... thats why... pop a few of these and I'll get BIG !! Sometimes people amaze me.. wait no they don't they disgust me. Ignorance of something doesn't mean you need to be stupid it just means you don't know...do research guys. While Orals are a great addition to a cycle.. they arent by any means a whole cycle by themselves. Sorry I am coming off like a dikk but I am sick of seeing this over and over again.... Good Luck and Happy Learning Fellas

Dude relax a little bit. If anybody should be complaining it should probably be some of the vets and mods on here....not someone who has been a member since Nov 2007 and is a junior member.

In case you haven't noticed....alot of the questions in here are the same damn questions that were asked a few hours earlier....if it bothers you that much just don't even log on. Since this is supposed to be a forum for learning. It would be nice in a perfect world where all of the newbs use the search option but I am sorry my friend...that just isn't going to happen.

[RBIZZY]

thank you, im tired of seeing people parrot that an all oral cycle is bad..granted its not the best cycle, but there are certain orals you can run alone (var, tbol, winny), while others such as dbol or drol is pointless to run alone bc you get big and bloated and then lose most of it. If you run var or winny alone, dont expect much muscle gain, but it can beneficial if youre trying to cut some bf and trying to preserve some muscle and have minimal HTPA supression.

ditto.... although some orals would be a bad choice for an all oral, there are some that could be a good choice... but with not as much gains. if you just want to get big then your thinking all wrong.... if you want to get cut and more dense, then maybe some orals would be the way to go....

[Dog-Slime]

I agree that oral only cycles are not ideal but I think some people on here freak a little too much about them. I wish my first cycle had been t-bol only. You get good gains on the first cycle plus the amount of LBM gains it gives in such a short period of time is very good IMO. What I hate is how some of these guys bash someone that wants to do an oral only cycle but during their injectable cycle they will run an oral to kick start and an oral to finish. IMO a tbol or var cycle for about 6 weeks can be very effective depending on ones goals. I personally wouldn't run it any longer than 6 weeks even with a mild compound as it seems to give diminishing returns after about the 5th or 6th week.

[juicenchris2989]

i agree a oral cycle isnt all that bad and you wont get best gains and should only be done when looking for some cut or nothing big but he has 3 orals here and thats way to many

[rain88]

I agree that oral only cycles are not ideal but I think some people on here freak a little too much about them. I wish my first cycle had been t-bol only. You get good gains on the first cycle plus the amount of LBM gains it gives in such a short period of time is very good IMO. What I hate is how some of these guys bash someone that wants to do an oral only cycle but during their injectable cycle they will run an oral to kick start and an oral to finish. IMO a tbol or var cycle for about 6 weeks can be very effective depending on ones goals. I personally wouldn't run it any longer than 6 weeks even with a mild compound as it seems to give diminishing returns after about the 5th or 6th week.

Hmm some people do let ppl do oral's here. I thought all i was gonna get is bashing. Would you mind enlightening me on what should a first cycle go with if i only want orals?

[admirals56]

anavar but if you only want all orals your not ready for steroids.. i wanted to use steroids when i was 15 but held off till now and im 19 and about to do my first cycle... when i was 15 i didnt mind doning injections and i never thought once of doing an all oral dont be scared of the needle just use a 25g and it may take a minet to finish but no pain..

[legobricks]

squawk

I agree. And then look at the posts after you guys post about oral cycles like tbol, var, or winny.

[The Deuce]

Dude relax a little bit. If anybody should be complaining it should probably be some of the vets and mods on here....not someone who has been a member since Nov 2007 and is a junior member.

In case you haven't noticed....alot of the questions in here are the same damn questions that were asked a few hours earlier....if it bothers you that much just don't even log on. Since this is supposed to be a forum for learning. It would be nice in a perfect world where all of the newbs use the search option but I am sorry my friend...that just isn't going to happen.

Just because I have been a member since Nov 2007 doesnt make me an amateur man alright?? Sorry I was off on a rant ... but hey that happens. I was a member of another bored for well over 2 years and have dont numerous successful cycles and pretty much have a good idea as to what is going on in the world of AAS.

Yes I will relax a lil bit but I just don't think it was appropriate of you to chastise me in front of everyone.. next time just shoot me a PM and let me know how I made you feel?? And the only reason I am posting this here instead of shooting you a PM is because now I feel it's necessary for everyone to see the bi-product of this.

I know at one point we were all Newbs and I shouldnt be saying that stuff .. just got frustrated... I know I should be helping them... and all that and for the most part I usually do... I just I dunno snapped that day because everyone wants to do Oral cycles only... and it didnt help that my brother was in my ear telling me he is about ready to start a DBOL cycle.. and I had to yell at him for an hour and tell him why that wouldnt be such a good idea... yah so...

Sorry

Here watch this guy dance man...

[juicenchris2989]

wooohooooo go baby go go lol

[Renesis]

I agree. And then look at the posts after you guys post about oral cycles like tbol, var, or winny.

I know -.- and rain I spent a couple of posts answering your question on what kind of oral cycle to do if you want to.

[southmadejd]

Just because I have been a member since Nov 2007 doesnt make me an amateur man alright?? Sorry I was off on a rant ... but hey that happens. I was a member of another bored for well over 2 years and have dont numerous successful cycles and pretty much have a good idea as to what is going on in the world of AAS.

Yes I will relax a lil bit but I just don't think it was appropriate of you to chastise me in front of everyone.. next time just shoot me a PM and let me know how I made you feel?? And the only reason I am posting this here instead of shooting you a PM is because now I feel it's necessary for everyone to see the bi-product of this.

I know at one point we were all Newbs and I shouldnt be saying that stuff .. just got frustrated... I know I should be helping them... and all that and for the most part I usually do... I just I dunno snapped that day because everyone wants to do Oral cycles only... and it didnt help that my brother was in my ear telling me he is about ready to start a DBOL cycle.. and I had to yell at him for an hour and tell him why that wouldnt be such a good idea... yah so...

Sorry

Here watch this guy dance man...

Check Check playa...will do sorry I just tried to find the gayest smilie and this is what I could come up with