too frontload or too not?

[rampage12]

ok i was wanting to frontload on my next cycle not sure if i should or what amounts i should use if i do? here is my cycle im starting sunday....
wk1-4 dbol 50mg
wk1-16 test e 500mg
wk1-14 deca 400mg
arimidex on side if i need it
stats 6'0 195 26 done 3 cycles before

[Johny-too-small]

Frontloading is only an idea...that looks better on paper than in practice, imo.

[ziinus]

I get sick when i frontload ( near 2grams gear in one week is too much for my body )

[10nispro]

Just curious....with 3 cycles under your belt and you are 6'0 195? Did you do a pct or does your diet need tweeking.

I am with Johnny on the Frontload idea....

[juicenchris2989]

agree^^^^^

[canadian meat]

Just curious....with 3 cycles under your belt and you are 6'0 195? Did you do a pct or does your diet need tweeking.

I am with Johnny on the Frontload idea....

I would guess diet But I was wondering same thing.
I also disagree with johnny I have front loaded long esters and it does work I double dose first week and dose and a half second week I start to get sides from the long ester by week 3.If no frontload Ill start to see sides by week 4 maybe 5.

[THE PUMP]

I would also be a fan of front loading with long estser it seems to hit me faster

[Big]

You should sort your diet before you cycle anything, in my opinion.

[-labmonkey-]

rampage12 i was just curious what ur pct looks like because im doing the same cycle and im not sure if my pct is right or not

[Fjock]

I have just recently tried front loading for the first time with Test E with a number of cycles under my belt. I have never felt results as quickly as i have with this method. I agree that 2 grams or so in that first week is a lot for most people to handle but damn it feels good heh. (not suggesting that any new user tries that dosage though)

[rampage12]

hcg last week of cycle up to pct at 500 iu eod
aromasin 20mg for 4 wks
nolva 20mg for 6 wks
and my diet is fine whats wrong with wei***ng 195?

[-labmonkey-]

is hcg needed because i cant get my hands on it but other then tht my pct looks just liek urs

[passthetest]

there are saying your small for three cycles

[rampage12]

oh ok well its been 7 years since last cycle i was 215 so i m wanting to get back to there but i ve never fornt loaded so i think ill try it so would 1gtest and 800mg deca first week and 750mg test and 600mg deca second week be good?

[canadian meat]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...t=frontloading
Might help If you havent read yet

[rampage12]

nice thanx for thread

[rampage12]

ok so im gonna drop cycle down too 14 wks instead of 16 anf frontload first week at double the amount

[The Deuce]

I can't wait to try frontloading... In fact I might do it on my next cycle... with Prop.. yes I know it's just the first day of injections that you double up ... well i just wanna see if there is any difference. Then if I like it.... I will do it .. on Every single cycle I do for the rest of the time.. because I hate kickstarting a cycle with an oral... just a pet peeve of mine.. don't ask why.

[canadian meat]

I can't wait to try frontloading... In fact I might do it on my next cycle... with Prop.. yes I know it's just the first day of injections that you double up ... well i just wanna see if there is any difference. Then if I like it.... I will do it .. on Every single cycle I do for the rest of the time.. because I hate kickstarting a cycle with an oral... just a pet peeve of mine.. don't ask why.

Never heard of anyone frontloading or wanting to frontload prop before.

[The Deuce]

Neither had I until I just read it in that thread you included in your post up there...

[canadian meat]

Neither had I until I just read it in that thread you included in your post up there...

LOL just seen It,Ive still never heard of anyone front loading prop drop me a PM let me know how it goes.

[The Deuce]

Will do... definitely..

[Booz]

ive frontloaded several times and IMHO it was no different.................

[The Deuce]

ive frontloaded several times and IMHO it was no different.................

Frontloading with Long Esters or short esters or the whole concept altogether??

[rampage12]

im just gonna try frontloading cause i got shorted on my dbol ive only got enough for 3 weeks now and not 4 weeks like i planned on

[Johny-too-small]

Duece, frontloading is for long esters only..thats the whole point of the idea: to make the long esters peak sooner. Hard to make prop peak any faster, lol.

[Calcium]

Front loading will get you to your peak blood level of your cycle within a wk or so, instead of waiting 4-6 wks like what we do with the long ester's. When you load with androgens the you will hit the highest scale of the cycle due to the half life of the AAS straight from the start of the cycle.

Certain people don't respond to many do, I guess its try and see if you do but if you do a quick calculation on the roid calculate you will see loading makes perfect sense and in practice it works even better.

Without doubt try there is no point in wasting those important first few wks with half the dose you were going to use.

[basshead69]

I front loaded my test e deca cycle and I saw resluts in 2 weeks instead of 4

[Kratos]

Never heard of anyone frontloading or wanting to frontload prop before.

I frontloaded prop and tren ace this past cycle, just doubled the first dose. I would do it again. No real need to though.

[rampage12]

ok so ive decided to frontload at 1 1/2 times as much instead of double since ill be doing 3 weeks of dbol at 50mg...sound good?

[tigermania]

I'm about to start a cycle similar to the ones discussed. I have Test e 200/cc and Deca 200/cc, along with dbol 50mg/tab. Couple of questions I have. I also have test cyp250/cc. What would be the difference if I did the test cyp instead of the test e with this cycle. I plan on

Wk1-4 50 mg dbol
wk 1-12 wither the test e (400/wk) or the test cyp ( 500/wk)
wki-10 Deca 400mg/wk.

Last question,I've asked a few times on here regarding pct, some say to run HCG during this cycle and not after. What are the advantages/disadvantages to doing this. I also have clomid for my pct. Would any of you do the HCG?clomid after the cycle, or HHCG during, and clomid after the cycle. Thanks in advance.

[rampage12]

dude seriously u can start another thread thats completely off topic of what we were talking bout

[tigermania]

Sorry for the thread hijack, saw similiarstuff, will do Scotty !!

[rampage12]

ok im starting my frontload tomorrow so hopefully ill be full doses within 3 weeks im doins three shots first week for a total of 750mg test and 600mg deca

[rampage12]

so does anyone no how to calculate when ill reach my peak doses when i frontload at those doses?

[soon2bfreak]

frontload or not i think you should run more test then that atleast 750 a week, and 600 of deca , if your are having trouble from running to much gear then it's not clean, you can burn out or recepters but you can't overload them you just wont absorb anymore hormone, you'll simple piss it out or sweat it out, the bigest problem i;ve ever had was breaking out from my body not being able to handle so much oil but i was doing like 5cc every day i think something like 1400 test 1200eq 1200 tren 600 masteron and 800deca. i personbally think if you are going to run under 1000 of test a week it needs to be prop, remember when you run Enethate close to 20% of that is the ester so if your runnning a does at 500 a week your really only taking 400 test a week where as prop is closer to 94-96% test. i may just be a freak, i do know you have to play around, like i get the same results from 6-800 of tren as i do from 1200 just because my body can only take up so much, but i think you would be safe to go to 1000 of test and 600 of deca. so for the ramble, save your money and run the cylce 12 weeks at the higher dose i think you will like the results more.

[rampage12]

this is my cycle with deca so im not doing that much mgs thats crazy