Beginner mistakes - could use some help

**thinkt** · 01-14-2008, 09:24 PM

Greetings,

I am 24, 170lbs, decided to do one cycle since I consider myself really hard gainer after few years of work out and different diet triouts. Honestly, without much research I got Sust 250 and Tren Ace (Tren 100). I didn't asked specifically for neither one, but I was told that tren is "good stuff" to use with Sust.

Last week I started a cycle, 2x a week of Sust 250 (500mg total) and Tren 100 eod 50mg (.5cc).

As I started the cycle, I started doing actual research to see what am I really putting into myself. After a week of searching through different forums and websites, it seems that Tren is pretty bad choice for a beginner cycle, could develop quite high side effects according to many. Also a lot of people suggest doing Sust eod (breaking up 500mg to eod), again I didn't do proper research before I got into this and it's my own fault.

Now I am wondering what should I do? Stop injecting tren and just continue with Sust and switch to eod? I shot tren about five and Sust three times.

On top of the stupid way of doing this I have to say that I do not have any Nolva on me or anything else for PCT, as the person that gave me the stuff said that after the cycle I can just get nolva from him. I have to admit, this is also quite stupid as I feel that I do not have everything I need on me to do this cycle properly.

Besides telling me how retarded this whole thing is, could someone point me to the right direction, would it be the best to stop this whole cycle before its too late, or to switch to Sust only? So far I do not see any side effects, and am wondering if I will in case I stop this cycle all of a sudden?

Any help appreciated.

Thanks

**bpm1** · 01-14-2008, 09:32 PM

iono, if ur not seein any sides and u feel alright and IF u can get ur pct stuff which if u order from ar-r u will, id personally see how it goes.if u start to see sides u can always drop the tren and continue with the test.u really have to make the call, but since u already dove in thats wat id do

**legobricks** · 01-14-2008, 09:38 PM

Well you are new here and to the world of AAS and are actually telling us you are retarted and are now learning...thats great bro! Thats the type of feedback we want to hear from new members and and new AAS users. Yes you can drop the tren if you want. Can you continue it...Yes. But its always recomended that you start with one compound if your new to assess your sides to AAS and your gains to one AAS versus 2. What you could do is drop the tren and save it for another later cycle. Order Nolvadex and Clomid off of the websites sponsor www.ar-r.com and youll have your PCT. Click on these blue letters PCT and it will show you how to utilize these chemicals to have a good PCT. The Sust is good to go bro for a first cycle tho. How tall are you at 170lbs? Also what is your BF% and how does your diet look?

**InsaneInTheMembrane** · 01-14-2008, 11:20 PM

^^^ good advice. However, an alternative is to quit althogether.. You are just 2 weeks in, not too late to bail out.... you would not be shut down too bad, and nolva alone for 2-3 weeks could help you restore natty hormone levels. I say this opposed to continue doing the test (and dropping tren ) because you have come to realize the inadequacy of your own knowledge regarding gear usage...that's a very mature and responsible thing to admit. On that token, I think you would be better off quitting now and using the time to research everything you need to do, take, buy or procure to make a great first cycle...which is, in a lot of cases, the greatest cycle (in terms of gains) a person will ever do because the body is completely new to it. You can then start the proper cycle a few months down the line (keep in mind many people research for years before poking themselves.. so a few months is the minimal) But it's up to you.

**juicenchris2989** · 01-14-2008, 11:23 PM

ya i agree i did the stupid route and my first cycle sucked big time i didnt have a clue to what i was doing didnt even finish the whole cycle didnt have a pct or anything hell i didnt know what a pct was lol

**legobricks** · 01-14-2008, 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by InsaneInTheMembrane

^^^ good advice. However, an alternative is to quit althogether.. You are just 2 weeks in, not too late to bail out.... you would not be shut down too bad, and nolva alone for 2-3 weeks could help you restore natty hormone levels. I say this opposed to continue doing the test (and dropping tren) because you have come to realize the inadequacy of your own knowledge regarding gear usage...that's a very mature and responsible thing to admit. On that token, I think you would be better off quitting now and using the time to research everything you need to do, take, buy or procure to make a great first cycle...which is, in a lot of cases, the greatest cycle (in terms of gains) a person will ever do because the body is completely new to it. You can then start the proper cycle a few months down the line (keep in mind many people research for years before poking themselves.. so a few months is the minimal) But it's up to you.

^^^Better advice!

Thats where I was going with his height and BF%. He could be 5'3" with 5% BF. wei***ng in at 170lbs

But his knowledge isnt very up on AAS and like you always here on TV, KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!