Urgent Help Test Prop

[SBW]

Hi gusy currently using Test prop at 150mg every second day..is that offen enough to keep blood levels stable?And after how long should i start to notice strength gains?Also is hot flushes and growseyness a side affect..started two days ago and noticing this already

[redz]

That dose is plenty is it your first cycle? I am not sure ho wlong it takes to kick in fully as I am on my first cycle of Test Enthanate and it takes 4-5 weeks to feel this stuff fully but it is a long ester. Yours is short so I`m assuming it should only take a week to really feel it maybe even less.

[nowdenlid]

prop kick ni fully around days 4-5

[Markosterone]

the dose is ok.

[Bigmax]

Fully kicked in at about a week...150 EOD is fine...for optimal results and level consistency is ED.

[SBW]

yes it is my first cycle and thanks for the help..i can feel better pumps at the gym but no big notice in strength its been 7days now.. i am running test cyp with it and that is coming up to 2weeks 2morow so that should kick in in the next week..so hopefully the strength comes with that...

[kostakv]

pm me

[hugovsilva]

Bro,

You are lost.

Test prop and test cyp are the same hormone. They will not deliver different results (ok, i know the esters makes them act a little different but you get my point).

You should run prop along with the cyp for the first 4 weeks and then run it in the end 2 weeks past the cyp starting week before you finish the cyp.

[roadapple]

I beleive prop is 3 days. You are fine. 150 mgs eod is kinda high for a 1st cycle, but I like it! Just make sure you got some anti-E's in case of nipple soreness. You know, many ppl use 200 mgs a week on their 1st go. You're at over 600 mgs/week. Does that shit hurt? Also try to rotate injection sites if youre not already doing so. Glutes, delts, then quads if you have to. Leave the bicep/trap/pec injections for later.

[Njord]

I beleive prop is 3 days. You are fine. 150 mgs eod is kinda high for a 1st cycle, but I like it! Just make sure you got some anti-E's in case of nipple soreness. You know, many ppl use 200 mgs a week on their 1st go. You're at over 600 mgs/week. Does that shit hurt? Also try to rotate injection sites if youre not already doing so. Glutes, delts, then quads if you have to. Leave the bicep/trap/pec injections for later.

You "believe" every 3 days. Why the hell would you post stuff if you don't know what the hell you are talking about. Your suggestions and comment are way off base. Please only comment on stuff you know.

[roadapple]

You "believe" every 3 days. Why the hell would you post stuff if you don't know what the hell you are talking about. Your suggestions and comment are way off base. Please only comment on stuff you know.

My response is not far off from nowdenlid's, yet you've been slamming me even though I've been giving you good ratings and even apologized in one of my posts. Either way E/D or EOD injections are fine. You singled out ONE single part of my post that was just an educated guess based on my experience while the rest of the post has valid points that you ignored and chose to focus on something that was very inconsequential to the thread and the gentleman's question.

I'm willing to write this off as youre probably having a bad day or being in a bad mood and now moving on. Hopefully you will see my point of view and can find it within yourself to behave decently....

Oh and my posts are not complete garbage. No reason to make a new poster feel unwelcome with incediary comments. I did not lie or make anything up. Why the HOSTILITY? And i mean all your comments directed at me.

[Njord]

My response is not far off from nowdenlid's, yet you've been slamming me even though I've been giving you good ratings and even apologized in one of my posts. Either way E/D or EOD injections are fine. You singled out ONE single part of my post that was just an educated guess based on my experience while the rest of the post has valid points that you ignored and chose to focus on something that was very inconsequential to the thread and the gentleman's question.

I'm willing to write this off as youre probably having a bad day or being in a bad mood and now moving on. Hopefully you will see my point of view and can find it within yourself to behave decently....

Oh and my posts are not complete garbage. No reason to make a new poster feel unwelcome with incediary comments. I did not lie or make anything up. Why the HOSTILITY? And i mean all your comments directed at me.

I am "slamming" you because you make statements not based on fact and personnel experience. Too many people on these forum regurgitate and parrot information and a lot of the time they are wrong.
Next you state that the original poster is over 600mg/week on his dosing schedule, he is not. 150mg EOD is 525mg/week a normal cycle dosage.
Then you state many people start at 200mg/week. maybe a couple, but "many", I doubt it. It would be a waste in my opinion. And finally, why does he need to limit his injections to glutes delt and quads. No reason to wait to the next cycle to use those sites.
So pretty much every step of you post is off base, so that is why I "slammed you".

[roadapple]

I am "slamming" you because you make statements not based on fact and personnel experience.

Wrong. How do you know my past experience? I have run test prop.

Too many people on these forum regurgitate and parrot information and a lot of the time they are wrong. (Agreed.)

Next you state that the original poster is over 600mg/week on his dosing schedule, he is not. 150mg EOD is 525mg/week a normal cycle dosage.

Since it's EOD it will be 600 mgs id dosed on monday wed fri sunday. 4 X 150 = 600mgs. But averaged out I was off by 75 mgs....you must agree that is kind of NITPICKING. Again info wasnt false, made up, etc. Trying to be helpful.

Then you state many people start at 200mg/week. maybe a couple, but "many", I doubt it.

from http://bodybuilderschoice.com/s-Abou...osterone-.html
Testosterone Propionate Effective Dose: 200 - 600 mgs. / week
Testosterone Cypionate Effective Dose: 200 - 600 mgs. / week
Testosterone Enanthate Effective Dose: 200 - 600 mgs. / week

from http://www.supplementforyou.net/test...200-pills.html
A running dosage of test cypionate is generally in the range of 200-600mg per week

And countless others. These I just googled in 2 mins.

It would be a waste in my opinion.

Agreed. To an experienced user this is a waste, but it is generally considered the minimum effective dose to add muscle.
Also, However he said it was his first cycle and i was merely offering an alternative-food for thought if you will- that this early in his steroid experience, 200 mgs a week of test is acceptable and not to feel bad about using low dose the first time. and if you re-read my post I explicitly said in the same sentencethat you cited that I liked his dose. "150 mgs eod is kinda high for a 1st cycle, but I like it! "

And finally, why does he need to limit his injections to glutes delt and quads. No reason to wait to the next cycle to use those sites.
So pretty much every step of you post is off base, so that is why I "slammed you".

He doesn't. I was offering advice because in my personal experience I know that T prop hurts and i was trying to help out by giving advice based on personal opinion that one could rotate injection sites with a painful juice like prop. I offered those areas because they are large muscle groups in the case of glute and quad and are generally safer to inject without hitting a vein as oppsed to the bicep, etc.

I am just giving my own personal experience. i am here to learn and to give advice when i can. Just because i don't have alot of posts doesn't mean i don't know anything.

Maybe i could have/should have explained myself better when i gave this information but at the time it seemed to be understood but i was apparently wrong and I am sorry for that.

A lot of people express opinions on this site and in the world in general. That is a big part of communicating ideas, opinions and learning. Much of bodybuilding lore you find today is based on conjecture rather than fact. And any scientist worth his salt will tell you there is no such thing as proven fact in science. Only laws, theories, and hypotheses.

Now that you know my point of view and where I'm coming from, maybe we can we acknowledge that we are not that far apart in terms of opinions and whatever other issues we can just agree to disagree?

Again if I was offensive to anyone, including you njord, I apologize. My sole intention was to help and join in on the conversation.

Hey SBW, im sorry for hijacking the post. I was only trying to help.

[roadapple]

If you're cool with this then lets squash this. I understand your point of view bro. You never know. If you met me in person we'd probably hit it off.

[SBW]

kostakv I cannot PM you!i dont have enough posts i believe..yes i know they are the same compound i am going for high mg..I have Tamaxofin on hand,i just started to take them 2day as the nipple soreness was now quite noticeable..Taking 20mg of it a day as of now..

[kostakv]

get your posts up and pm me

[SBW]

any other way of contacting u?

[NSXTC]

Wouldn't 200mg/wk be HRT with something else stacked and 600mg/wk be by its self/possibly stacked? Would 200mg/wk alone do anything?

[Panzerfaust80]

My response is not far off from nowdenlid's, yet you've been slamming me even though I've been giving you good ratings and even apologized in one of my posts. Either way E/D or EOD injections are fine. You singled out ONE single part of my post that was just an educated guess based on my experience while the rest of the post has valid points that you ignored and chose to focus on something that was very inconsequential to the thread and the gentleman's question.

I'm willing to write this off as youre probably having a bad day or being in a bad mood and now moving on. Hopefully you will see my point of view and can find it within yourself to behave decently....

Oh and my posts are not complete garbage. No reason to make a new poster feel unwelcome with incediary comments. I did not lie or make anything up. Why the HOSTILITY? And i mean all your comments directed at me.

Get used to it bro... lotta know-it-alls here just waiting to pounce on ya for the littlest shyt...

[ZaneFan]

If you're cool with this then lets squash this. I understand your point of view bro. You never know. If you met me in person we'd probably hit it off.

Finally someone mature enough to say lets just shake hands and forget about. Rare on this site. Roadapple for President!