For My Oral Only Cycle

[rain88]

Week 1-3 dbol 40mg ed
week 4-6 winny 50mg ed

PCT starts day after last tab

day 1 60mg nolva
days 2-11 40mg nolva
days 12-21 20mg nolva

Only constructive comments please, please keep the "oral only suck" comments to yourself. Thank you.

[nowdenlid]

what are your goals with this cycle ?

what are your stats?

why wont you go with injections?

[G4R]

I'm new to this, but I was curious if you were stacking the Dbol with anything like Proviron to counteract the water retention.
Like I said, just curious.

[redz]

That is a garbage cycle and its not only because its oral only......winnie needs to be run 6 weeks to get good results. Do some research. Dbol for 3 weeks wont do much either, get some injectables in there or at the very minimum you could arrange a better oral cycle than that.

[nowdenlid]

smokeing is bad for you.(fact)

oral only is crap (fact)

[juju]

Only constructive comments please, please keep the "oral only suck" comments to yourself. Thank you.

There is nothing constructive to say about this cycle.

Its a waste of time and gear.

You need at least some kind of test to make this work.

[Timm1704]

i do not necessarily believe that oral-only cycles are crap, but obviously the longer you are on, the more muscle you can acquire. So, in 6 weeks you will not gain much actual muscle, and you clearly havent done a great deal of research. You will however, get a little boost from the cycle, but chances are that you will keep nothing, AT ALL, from it. Sorry mate, but I believe you are wasting your time and money

[feanixco]

smokeing is bad for you.(fact)

oral only is crap (fact)

LMAO
Rain, why no injections?

[Timm1704]

There is nothing constructive to say about this cycle.

Its a waste of time and gear.

You need at least some kind of test to make this work.

again, i disagree, i have seen countless cycles without test that have good results, I personally have ran some when i first started using AAS. these days however, i always use test, as i feel so damn good, and it works.

[Johny-too-small]

There are much better options for and oral only. 3 weeks of winny will not do a damn thing, no matter what the dose. This cycle is really poorly thought out. Find one that isnt. Also, anything over 40mg/ed of nolva is overkill, imo.

[nowdenlid]

i have done drol @ 100-150 mgs ed and gained 10lbs ,kept 3lbs

[Timm1704]

i have done drol @ 100-150 mgs ed and gained 10lbs ,kept 3lbs

how long were you on for?

[nowdenlid]

6 weeks.

[Spartan0503]

Thats not gonna do you much good. Dont waste your money.

[anabolicquest24]

if your insisting on takin this oral cycle then you should try this

d-bol wk1-4 40mg ed
winny wk 2-8ed 50mg ed

maybe if u do proper liver treament you can take d-bol to wk5

[Spartan0503]

he should not even consider this cycle, IMO

[anabolicquest24]

he might already have the gear, u never know. but ya i agree with u

[admirals56]

from what ive heard if your going to do an oral only cycle your best bet is tbol or var

[rain88]

I will be taking milk thistle at 1000mg ed, if anyone could show me a proper oral cycle? Please do.

Injections are out of the story as its not just a fear its more than a fear, i can black out when needles are going to be injected into me.

[Big]

from what ive heard if your going to do an oral only cycle your best bet is tbol or var

yup^

[rain88]

Tblo or Var onlY? Any other thing to go with it to keep the gains? Or just either one?

[anabolicquest24]

var wk 1-8 80mg ed (pretty expensive)

you could add a number of others it just depends on budget and what results you are lookin for d-bol 40mg ed wk 1-4, proviron 25mg ed wk 1-8

[Mr Tick]

I will be taking milk thistle at 1000mg ed, if anyone could show me a proper oral cycle? Please do.

Injections are out of the story as its not just a fear its more than a fear, i can black out when needles are going to be injected into me.

Hum never heard of anyone that bad. Maby if you had someone could inject for you. You lay down on the bed and someone clean u up and then inject. Like a Girlfriend or something. That way if u pass out ur on a bed. Thats horrible bro, I have always been a person that says if you have a fear face it no matter what it is. I personally CANNOT live a life of fear but thats just me. Im sure if you maby did this a few times it might help lesson the fear but then again everyones different. Either way i hope u get some control of your fears and not let them dictate your life.

[Spartan0503]

hate to say it, but if you are that terrified of needles, im not sure roids are for you. everyone has their things that get to them, and that can be difficult to overcome. if you insist on oral only, take admirals advice and use tbol or var. i have never taken var, but from what i have seen the doses vary. Some people complain they see nothing with 50 mg a week, but i just saw the post a dude who got gains with 10mg (not big ones, but still gains) I would start at 50 and if you see nothing, work your way up.

[im83931]

For some people it is not a fear issue. They can black out or pass out even if someone injects them. My dad does this.
Hell I have even almost passed out injecting myself. You can always lay on the floor to inject your thigh and if you start to pass out then just pull the needle as things go black.
If you are going oral only I think var is the best. Thats just my opinion though. The great thing about var is that you will keep most of your gains.

[GOBAL]

ONLY ORAL (mass) CYCLE:

week 1 240mg Andriol day + 25mg D-bol day
week 2 240mg Andriol day + 25mg D-bol day
week 3 240mg Andriol day + 25mg D-bol day
week 4 240mg Andriol day + 25mg D-bol day
week 5 240mg Andriol day + 25mg D-bol day
week 6 240mg Andriol day + 25mg D-bol day

ONLY ORAL (cut) CYCLE:

week 1 240mg Andriol day + 30mg Winstrol ECA
week 2 240mg Andriol day + 30mg Winstrol ECA
week 2 240mg Andriol day + 25mg Winstrol CLEN
week 3 240mg Andriol day + 25mg Winstrol CLEN
week 4 240mg Andriol day + 25mg Winstrol ECA
week 5 240mg Andriol day + 25mg Winstrol ECA
week 6 240mg Andriol day + 25mg Winstrol CLEN

[bigdrew]

3 years ago i posted a similar question and was almost laughed off the board. now i realize that was for good reason. not only are orals tougher on the body, the meds simply aren't as good. we inject for a reason. i was once so afraid of injections that i ran out of my drs office. after a while, you actually begin to crave them and the high from doing a succesful one.

[Brazilian_Juice]

Rain, try and do something like Test E with a .5" and add some var if your trying to cut up too. Bro, i am just like you, I finaly got my first injection last friday and I was crying, no lies dude. If you got a friend who can inject you its good, I cried for about 5 minutes before injection and when i say him do it, it was painless and no problem.

[pretty_tony]

Injections are out of the story as its not just a fear its more than a fear, i can black out when needles are going to be injected into me.[/QUOTE]

i used to have this problem as well. i would get a friend to inject me and if you're that bad maybe lie down while being injected in case you pass out. after awhile you get used to the injections and it ain't no big thing.........good luck

[legobricks]

ONLY ORAL (mass) CYCLE:

week 1 240mg Andriol day + 25mg D-bol day
week 2 240mg Andriol day + 25mg D-bol day
week 3 240mg Andriol day + 25mg D-bol day
week 4 240mg Andriol day + 25mg D-bol day
week 5 240mg Andriol day + 25mg D-bol day
week 6 240mg Andriol day + 25mg D-bol day

ONLY ORAL (cut) CYCLE:

week 1 240mg Andriol day + 30mg Winstrol ECA
week 2 240mg Andriol day + 30mg Winstrol ECA
week 2 240mg Andriol day + 25mg Winstrol CLEN
week 3 240mg Andriol day + 25mg Winstrol CLEN
week 4 240mg Andriol day + 25mg Winstrol ECA
week 5 240mg Andriol day + 25mg Winstrol ECA
week 6 240mg Andriol day + 25mg Winstrol CLEN

Ummmmm... No. Dont just cut and paste things you see to think are good. Cutting and bulking are depicted by your diet.

[GOBAL]

i don't cut and paste this cycle... IMO are two good ONLY oral cycle...

Cutting and bulking are depicted by your diet... OBVIOUSLY... but with dianabol is quit hard to do cut!

[EZgainer]

WTF is andriol been in this game for awile...correct me but is that just a supp? or did u miss spell anadrol ? and if u did...did u reccomend 240mg ED? and u said hard to cut with dbol ...so according to ur advice is it easy to cut with "andriol"?

[Johny-too-small]

ONLY ORAL (mass) CYCLE:

week 1 240mg Andriol day + 25mg D-bol day
week 2 240mg Andriol day + 25mg D-bol day
week 3 240mg Andriol day + 25mg D-bol day
week 4 240mg Andriol day + 25mg D-bol day
week 5 240mg Andriol day + 25mg D-bol day
week 6 240mg Andriol day + 25mg D-bol day

ONLY ORAL (cut) CYCLE:

week 1 240mg Andriol day + 30mg Winstrol ECA
week 2 240mg Andriol day + 30mg Winstrol ECA
week 2 240mg Andriol day + 25mg Winstrol CLEN
week 3 240mg Andriol day + 25mg Winstrol CLEN
week 4 240mg Andriol day + 25mg Winstrol ECA
week 5 240mg Andriol day + 25mg Winstrol ECA
week 6 240mg Andriol day + 25mg Winstrol CLEN

horrible....

[Johny-too-small]

i don't cut and paste this cycle... IMO are two good ONLY oral cycle...

Cutting and bulking are depicted by your diet... OBVIOUSLY... but with dianabol is quit hard to do cut!

wrong.

[GOBAL]

WTF is andriol been in this game for awile...correct me but is that just a supp? or did u miss spell anadrol? and if u did...did u reccomend 240mg ED? and u said hard to cut with dbol...so according to ur advice is it easy to cut with "andriol"?

ANDRIOL is oral test undecanoate... is the base of cycle... and 240mg are ok...

[lex57]

WTF is andriol been in this game for awile...correct me but is that just a supp? or did u miss spell anadrol? and if u did...did u reccomend 240mg ED? and u said hard to cut with dbol...so according to ur advice is it easy to cut with "andriol"?

no its andriol . just click the word where it is blue and it will explain it for you. its been around for a long time.

[GOBAL]

HEY JOHNY.... why you do not write an example of only oral cycle?????

and why my only oral cycle are horrible???

[EZgainer]

o ok cool learn something new everyday...i knew there was oral test just didnt know the name of it...thanks guys

[kick6]

ONLY ORAL (mass) CYCLE:

week 1 240mg Andriol day + 25mg D-bol day
week 2 240mg Andriol day + 25mg D-bol day
week 3 240mg Andriol day + 25mg D-bol day
week 4 240mg Andriol day + 25mg D-bol day
week 5 240mg Andriol day + 25mg D-bol day
week 6 240mg Andriol day + 25mg D-bol day

I personally wouldn't run dbol that long. Take the money you would have spent on the last 2 weeks worth of dbol, and you might get yourself another few days worth of andriol which would be a much better choice.

ONLY ORAL (cut) CYCLE:

week 1 240mg Andriol day + 30mg Winstrol ECA
week 2 240mg Andriol day + 30mg Winstrol ECA
week 2 240mg Andriol day + 25mg Winstrol CLEN
week 3 240mg Andriol day + 25mg Winstrol CLEN
week 4 240mg Andriol day + 25mg Winstrol ECA
week 5 240mg Andriol day + 25mg Winstrol ECA
week 6 240mg Andriol day + 25mg Winstrol CLEN

You can't alternate ephedra with clen. They both downregulate the same receptors.

[GOBAL]

Thank you kick6!! i did not know that efe and clen downregulate the same receptors.