proviron !! opinoins please

**anabolicquest24** · 01-19-2008, 11:14 AM

i have been reading up on proviron , and it looks like a good thing to stack with test. i was thinking of taking armidex with my next cycle of test to keep water retention down. does anybody thing it would be good to take proviron instead because it will bind to est receptors and the shbg reducing water retent and helping free up all the test u can! anyone with any experience with this?

**G4R** · 01-19-2008, 11:58 AM

Proviron is a non-17 Alpha Oral Androgen replacement. It gives you added sex drive and a sense of well being, and is an Estrogen antagonist..... ideal for helping with water retention..... but no, I have never used it, haha, sorry.
I am sure someone in the forum can help you. Good luck.

**anabolicpower** · 01-19-2008, 01:06 PM

stacking test and proviron will make you horny as hell..

**BlackWidow** · 01-19-2008, 01:10 PM

Use your Prov. @ 25-50 mg ED along with 10 mg Nolva ED and there will be no bloat. Personal experience.
Good luck bro!

**anabolicpower** · 01-19-2008, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by BlackWidow

Use your Prov. @ 25-50 mg ED along with 10 mg Nolva ED and there will be no bloat. Personal experience.
Good luck bro!

Using proviron and nolva at the same time can cause total shut down of the estrogen in the body.. not a good thing. Id recommend either 50mg of proviron ED or 10mg of nolva ED, but not both.

**meathead320** · 01-19-2008, 02:42 PM

proviron , if you can get a hold of it, IMHO is the best thing to stack with test.

Be careful with the dose, as it alone can drive Estradiol too low.

It does have some added benefits that serms and AI's do not have, and is less likely to drive your Estradiol too low, but you still need to be careful with the dose.

You need some Estradiol to make IGF-1.

The only real way to tell if your E2 is in check is with regular blood tests.

**BlackWidow** · 01-19-2008, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by anabolicpower

Using proviron and nolva at the same time can cause total shut down of the estrogen in the body.. not a good thing. Id recommend either 50mg of proviron ED or 10mg of nolva ED, but not both.

Total shut down?!! I don't think bro coz Prov. is a very mild AI and at such low dose, it'll not eleminate estrogen. And as for the Nolva, it doesn't shut down estrogen and definitely will not hinder your gains via the famous IGF-1 thing (which I don't believe in by the way)...

**anabolicquest24** · 01-19-2008, 04:26 PM

i think im going to run it at 17.5 mg ed with 10 mg nolva ed. ill save the armidex for pct. the comments about the sex drive thou, idk if i really need that it might be a fun experience or just get me in trouble with my girlfriend lol !!