Third Cycle

**GOBAL** · 01-20-2008, 10:00 AM

Hello everyone ...

I finished my second cycle:
1-12 sustanon 350 week
1-12 equipose 400mg week
1-4 dianabol 30mg Day

Diet was: 400g car 350g pro 100g fat kal (4000)... i'm tall 6 feet 2 inches....i'm weight 200lbs... bf% 10

I am not satisfied for lbs gained muscle mass ... the quality muscle during the cycle was excellent ... But I did not take a lot of muscle mass ...

I wanted to make a third cycle that gave me more muscle mass ... I thought:

1-12 Susta 400mg/week
1-10 tren E 300mg/week
1-8 dianabol 20mg Day

What do you think? In my second cycle calories were too low? Is not what I grew up a lot? Thanks.

**ricker35910** · 01-20-2008, 10:22 AM

sust should be injected eod, i don't see how you're getting 400mg/wk . if you inject .5mls(125mg) eod that'll give you 500mg/wk

**GOBAL** · 01-20-2008, 10:34 AM

I inject 1.5 ml once a week ... I thought for susta was sufficient 1 injection for week...

**juicenchris2989** · 01-20-2008, 10:35 AM

no need to run the dbol that long keep it 4 maybe 5wks max at 40mgs ed and for more mass why dont you try a diff test rather than sus

**ricker35910** · 01-20-2008, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by GOBAL

I inject 1.5 ml once a week ... I thought for susta was sufficient 1 injection for week...

no, sust needs to be injected atleast eod to keep levels steady. if you want to inject less frequently then get cyp or enanth which you can do twice/wk

**GOBAL** · 01-20-2008, 10:56 AM

Ok...perfect...

but test en or test cyp give more water retention than susta?
Use 0.5 mg arimidex for all the cycle limited gains?

**GOBAL** · 01-20-2008, 01:00 PM

????

**ricker35910** · 01-20-2008, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by GOBAL

Ok...perfect...

but test en or test cyp give more water retention than susta?
Use 0.5 mg arimidex for all the cycle limited gains?

with the low amount of test you take you don't need .5mg of adex ed, lower it to .25 ed or .5 eod

**GOBAL** · 01-20-2008, 02:07 PM

thanks Ricker...

else...

if i use test E 500mg/week and want do a front load...

how much should be the quantity?
how is it divided?

**Njord** · 01-20-2008, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by GOBAL

thanks Ricker...

else...

if i use test E 500mg/week and want do a front load...

how much should be the quantity?
how is it divided?

To frontload for 500mg/week just double the dose for the first week. So if you plan on doing 250mg X 2 a week, then do 500mg X2 for the first week, then continue on 250mg x 2 week for the rest of the cycle.

**GOBAL** · 01-20-2008, 02:38 PM

ah ok...

i read here

Frontloading explained-

I did not understand much...

Just double the dose in the first week???

I think most complicated in the link above...

**Big** · 01-20-2008, 02:42 PM

sust contains short esters and does not need to be frontloaded. If you are using test e you just double the usual doses for the first week, simple as that.

**GOBAL** · 01-20-2008, 02:46 PM

and if i use test E with dianabol ... is necessary a front load with test E?

**Big** · 01-20-2008, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by GOBAL

and if i use test E with dianabol... is necessary a front load with test E?

not with the dbol , it will kick you off nicely.

**GOBAL** · 01-20-2008, 02:59 PM

It is possible that I did not put a lot of muscle mass because I injected susta only once a week? I also used 0.5 mg day of arimidex for all my second cicle...

**Merc..** · 01-20-2008, 03:02 PM

Check this thread Global...

Estrogen Will It Effect My Gains

Merc.

**Big** · 01-20-2008, 03:04 PM

I shoot sust eod, not once a week, and I personally wouldn't run that much arimidex anyway, if I feel I need it I run .25eod, but it could be your diet or a number of other things.

**GOBAL** · 01-20-2008, 03:27 PM

Certainly ... is almost impossible to say exactly what could have been ...

Merc thank you very much! really good thread!

**GOBAL** · 01-21-2008, 07:44 AM

for my cicle is better tren E 300mg/week or tren ace 100mg/eod? both for 10-12 week....

**GOBAL** · 01-21-2008, 08:30 AM

it is the same?

**GOBAL** · 01-21-2008, 12:46 PM

you know trinaplex 200? are 3 esters of trenbolone (Trinaplex 200 contains trenbolone acetate, trenbolone hexahydrobenzylcarbonate and trenbolone enanthate )

is good???

**nowdenlid** · 01-21-2008, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by GOBAL

you know trinaplex 200? are 3 esters of trenbolone (Trinaplex 200 contains trenbolone acetate, trenbolone hexahydrobenzylcarbonate and trenbolone enanthate )

is good???

from reading your posts i would say you arnt ready for tren ....

**GOBAL** · 01-21-2008, 03:28 PM

why??? i just asked information of trinaplex 200... i know the difference between ace and enant...

**GOBAL** · 01-22-2008, 07:23 AM

i have decided:

1-6 dianabol 30mg/day
1-12 test e 400mg/week
1-12 trinaplex 300mg/week
1-12 proviron 50mg/day

what do you think of this cycle??? 10 or 12 week is better???