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    Super Test Cycle! - Maximising levels of Free Testosterone!

    Week One:
    Sustanon 250 - 500mg/week

    Weeks 2-4:
    Proviron - 50mg/day
    Sustanon 250- 1g/week
    Winstrol tabs- 10mg/day

    Weeks 4-8:
    Proviron - 50mg/day
    Sustanon 250- 1g/week
    Winstrol tabs - 20mg/day

    Week 9:
    Proviron - 50mg/day
    Winstrol tabs - 20mg/day

    PCT started week 11.

    This cycle is designed to maximise the level of free testosterone in the body. Proviron competitively inhibits both estrogen aromatization and testosterone to SHBG binding, and Winstrol (DHT) adds to the androgen induced lowering of binding protein levels.

    Gains with this stack should therefore be leaner then those of with Test stacked with a "bulking" oral (Dbol , Adrol), as there is less of an estrogenic component.

    Calling all mods,vets and members What do you think?

    To me it looks worth a go.

    I found this cycle in William Lleywellyn's book series Anabolics.

    Whats the opinions out there?

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    Let me tell you that in terms of protection against estrogen, proviron is too weak regarding the 1g of test.

    Proviron block a good % of shbg but its far from completely blocking it even with the oral winstrol which also does so.
    Last edited by hugovsilva; 01-22-2008 at 07:50 PM.

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    so then let me guess youd have to run a stronger Anti E basically just leaving the cycle as a sus/weak winny cycle.

    If thats the case, there seems like theres better options to run out there.

    any more opinions?

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    I would run proviron anyway due to its shbg binding properties but wouldn't rely on it for anti E, even more with 1g of test.

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    no need to go so high w/ test...just aint worth it.. gains are bleh and the amount of aromitization does not warrant the gains

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    Yeah a gram of sus is pretty hardcore without running nolva concurrently....

    Why not frontload that cycle?

    1st week or two hit a gram, then taper to 500 mgs/wk for 8 or 9wks, or maybe even 250 wk...

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    i no tai, 500mg/week is plenty enough.

    I found this cycle in William Lleywellyn's book series Anabolics.

    This just shows, peoples opinions differ. Even those that make a profession out of it. Im sure even though Anthony Roberts, and William Lleywellyn are both respected authors, theyd still have a conflict of opinion over certian subjects too. Both there PCT suggestions are different too. Ive posted Lleywellyn's PCT up on here cos i was going to try it and i got ridiculed!

    Do you think there will ever be a cycle that everyone agrees on? lol.

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