Would Anavar and Dbol be a good cycle?

[Robbie2hottie]

Asside from the PCT, how well would those two do together? I registered on this site just to ask that because I was advised from a source that it would work well together, and after reading a few people who started some cycles that coupled certain steroids and got the shit flamed out of them, so I am just curious, sorry in advance if this is in the wrong part of the forum.

[shifty_git]

an oral only cycle in generally seen as a no no.

a test base is needed, and orals are normally only used to kick start a cycle.

two orals together put more stress on the liver also.. (although anavar on its own is pretty mild on the liver)

so as a cycle is pretty rubbish imo.

[hugovsilva]

What's the matter?

Afraid of needles?

[Njord]

Asside from the PCT, how well would those two do together? I registered on this site just to ask that because I was advised from a source that it would work well together, and after reading a few people who started some cycles that coupled certain steroids and got the shit flamed out of them, so I am just curious, sorry in advance if this is in the wrong part of the forum.

You are in the right forum for your questions. I don't have any strong feeling for or against and oral only cycle per se, but dbol and anavar is not a great mix.

[roadapple]

They compete for the same receptor and can be less effective than using one for 4 weeks, 2 weeks off for liver then 4 weeks on again. I'd go dbol first then anavar 2nd. a testosterone base with a long acting ester would be great.

Winstrol is another 17 AA steroid that can be taken orally and is good for fat loss strength and hardness. (yes u can drink winny.) Anadrol is a powerful oral that can build mass quickly and give great vascularity. Another option is primobolan acetate. It is not 17 alpha alk and is not as hard on the liver. It is more of a cutter but is between the two poles.

What kind of gains do you want though? Bulking? Cutting? Both? Depending on what you want, taper your oral cycle to your needs. Bulking, take dbol or adrol, Cutting take winny or anavar or primo. Both bulk and cut? Try drol or dbol the first half, rest then take a 'cutter.'

[Njord]

They compete for the same receptor and can be less effective than using one for 4 weeks, 2 weeks off for liver then 4 weeks on again. I'd go dbol first then anavar 2nd. a testosterone base with a long acting ester would be great.

Winstrol is another 17 AA steroid that can be taken orally and is good for fat loss strength and hardness. (yes u can drink winny.) Anadrol is a powerful oral that can build mass quickly and give great vascularity. Another option is primobolan acetate. It is not 17 alpha alk and is not as hard on the liver. It is more of a cutter but is between the two poles.

What kind of gains do you want though? Bulking? Cutting? Both? Depending on what you want, taper your oral cycle to your needs. Bulking, take dbol or adrol, Cutting take winny or anavar or primo. Both bulk and cut? Try drol or dbol the first half, rest then take a 'cutter.'

Complete nonsense. Stop posting.

[roadapple]

okay.

[taiboxa]

is it a good cycle? YES it is...
BUT
have you ran dbol before?
have you ran var before?
what cycle experience do you have?
as for "RoadApple" .. you sir have no concept of the compounds he is referring to apparently if you state they compete for the same recepter..
i bet you think drol and dbol compete as well eh?

thanks njord for saying what was on my mind.

[N4cer]

All the steroids we take are using only one type of receptor! THE ANDROGEN RECEPTOR! That's it. Done. Game over.

[taiboxa]

but they all having different binding locations and affinities.. i.e. nor groups work great w/ dht's and what not

[N4cer]

Doesn't matter. There's only one receptor in the body as far as steroids and their ability to build muscle. The androgen receptor. Binding affinity to other sex hormones is a separate issue.

[Robbie2hottie]

What's the matter?

Afraid of needles?

Thanks idiot, that was alot of help. And No.

[Robbie2hottie]

is it a good cycle? YES it is...
BUT
have you ran dbol before?
have you ran var before?
what cycle experience do you have?
as for "RoadApple" .. you sir have no concept of the compounds he is referring to apparently if you state they compete for the same recepter..
i bet you think drol and dbol compete as well eh?

thanks njord for saying what was on my mind.

No previous cycle experience, my goals.. dumb or not I don't really have one, Just kinda wanna see where they take me.

So would you recommend doing both first?

This is more or less what my cycle looks like.

Week1: Dianabol 20mg/day + Anavar 30mg/day
Week2: Dianabol 25mg/day + Anavar 30mg/day
Week3: Dianabol 30mg/day + Anavar 30mg/day + Nolvadex 1tab/day
Week4: Dianabol 30mg/day + Anavar 30mg/day + Nolvadex 1tab/day
Week5: Dianabol 30mg/day + Anavar 30mg/day
Week6: Dianabol 30mg/day + Anavar 30mg/day + Nolvadex 1tab/day
Week7: Clomid 2tabs/day
Week8: Clomid 1tab/day

With some milk thistle supplements and alpha lipoic acid.

[N4cer]

Why the nolvadex mid-cycle for no reason?
What do you think var will add to the dbol?
Why are you using orals only?

[longhorn814]

No previous cycle experience, my goals.. dumb or not I don't really have one, Just kinda wanna see where they take me.

So would you recommend doing both first?

This is more or less what my cycle looks like.

Week1: Dianabol 20mg/day + Anavar 30mg/day
Week2: Dianabol 25mg/day + Anavar 30mg/day
Week3: Dianabol 30mg/day + Anavar 30mg/day + Nolvadex 1tab/day
Week4: Dianabol 30mg/day + Anavar 30mg/day + Nolvadex 1tab/day
Week5: Dianabol 30mg/day + Anavar 30mg/day
Week6: Dianabol 30mg/day + Anavar 30mg/day + Nolvadex 1tab/day
Week7: Clomid 2tabs/day
Week8: Clomid 1tab/day

With some milk thistle supplements and alpha lipoic acid.

personally I think youre wasting your time trying that..what are your stats, age, etc??? If youre not ready to inject yourself, then youre not ready for AAS!!! You can run that if you want, but youre just wasting time and money and I think you'll be disappointed..dbol is a bulking steroid, that causes a lot of water retention..anavar is a weak, cutting steroid..the two dont mix well together IMO..besides 30 mg is a weak dose unless your a chick..need at least 60mg of var/day..you'll get a better results with a simple cycle of test e for 10-12 weeks and it'll be cheaper..sounds like your source just wants to take your $$$$

[taiboxa]

you are NO WHERE Near ready for aas.. please dont start that atrocious cycle.

[kick6]

All the steroids we take are using only one type of receptor! THE ANDROGEN RECEPTOR! That's it. Done. Game over.

Wrong. There are a couple of steroids that are very weak binders to the androgen receptors, yet result in good gains. Why? Because they have effects at other sites in the body.

[kfrost06]

Wrong. There are a couple of steroids that are very weak binders to the androgen receptors, yet result in good gains. Why? Because they have effects at other sites in the body.

good post and very true, Anadrol does not bind to the ARs and it is not known how it works some speculate it actually binds to the ERs and thats why drol a DHT will give estrogen effects like water retention

[N4cer]

Oh geez here we go with the anabolic estrogen theorists. Too much time reading, not enough time thinking about the source of what you're reading.

[hugovsilva]

Thanks idiot, that was alot of help. And No.

So if you are not afraid of needles here the idiot has 2 suggestions for you:

1- you are not ready for steroids so please don't even touch them.
2- when you are ready go with an injectable and you will be much better served.

By the way...here the idiot does not believe you are not afraid of needles and thinks you are a p u s s y.

[mmmmma]

So if you are not afraid of needles here the idiot has 2 suggestions for you:

1- you are not ready for steroids so please don't even touch them.
2- when you are ready go with an injectable and you will be much better served.

By the way...here the idiot does not believe you are not afraid of needles and thinks you are a p u s s y.

lol..agreed.

[shifty_git]

So if you are not afraid of needles here the idiot has 2 suggestions for you:

1- you are not ready for steroids so please don't even touch them.
2- when you are ready go with an injectable and you will be much better served.

By the way...here the idiot does not believe you are not afraid of needles and thinks you are a p u s s y.

lol..agreed.

come on guys, remember this board has a no flame policy
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=312515

but the point of your not ready for steroids is very true.

we need your stats and experience before ANY advice can be given, but in guessing you need to check out the diet and workout forum first.

educate your self, do not take aas without propper education.

[kick6]

Oh geez here we go with the anabolic estrogen theorists. Too much time reading, not enough time thinking about the source of what you're reading.

Your argument is not very convincing.

[J*U*icEd]

you are NO WHERE Near ready for aas.. please dont start that atrocious cycle.

So if you are not afraid of needles here the idiot has 2 suggestions for you:

1- you are not ready for steroids so please don't even touch them.
2- when you are ready go with an injectable and you will be much better served.

By the way...here the idiot does not believe you are not afraid of needles and thinks you are a p u s s y.

this thread is hilarious...

[hugovsilva]

What's the matter?

Afraid of needles?

Thanks idiot, that was alot of help. And No.

So if you are not afraid of needles here the idiot has 2 suggestions for you:

1- you are not ready for steroids so please don't even touch them.
2- when you are ready go with an injectable and you will be much better served.

By the way...here the idiot does not believe you are not afraid of needles and thinks you are a p u s s y.

come on guys, remember this board has a no flame policy
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=312515

but the point of your not ready for steroids is very true.

we need your stats and experience before ANY advice can be given, but in guessing you need to check out the diet and workout forum first.

educate your self, do not take aas without propper education.

Hey Shifty, where do you see me flamming anyone?

My hardened reply was just an answer to a imature reply by the thread starter to a legit question of mine. Besides, all I wrote is the pure truth, specially the p u s s y part.

[J*U*icEd]

no flaming on your part!!

[hugovsilva]

I though so.

God does not punish those who say the truth. Why would the Administrator?

[shifty_git]

Hey Shifty, where do you see me flamming anyone?

My hardened reply was just an answer to a imature reply by the thread starter to a legit question of mine. Besides, all I wrote is the pure truth, specially the p u s s y part.

he has 4 posts, you have 1,300 - he's uneducated and will get the idea he's wrong...

im not having a go, just trying to keep the flavour of the board a good flavour.

[hugovsilva]

Its cool bro.

[Robbie2hottie]

Lol Hugo, please tell me how asking if I am afraid of needles a legitimate response to my question? I'm not afraid of needles, believe me or don't, the intention of this thread was not to convince you whether I am or not, don't care.

I guess I should have clarified that the reason for two orals isn't because I'm afraid of needles which was what the response was in numerous posts, but simply because those were what were available to me, as stated..

Point taken though about being 'not ready for aas', thats fine.
Not trying to argue my case, but I have been lifting several years and although the whole steroid idea is somewhat new to me I have done quite a bit of reading and my diet is fine, im not a diet freak but I do keep it in check, so by what definition is everyone saying "not ready for aas", because saying that doesn't really help me.

[Robbie2hottie]

So if you are not afraid of needles here the idiot has 2 suggestions for you:

1- you are not ready for steroids so please don't even touch them.
2- when you are ready go with an injectable and you will be much better served.

By the way...here the idiot does not believe you are not afraid of needles and thinks you are a p u s s y.

Well atleast this post is relevant to my thread topic, although I don't understand why the third person.

[hugovsilva]

Having your workout and diet in check is good. If you really do it means that you have started with the most important instead of jumping on steroids right away. So now that you know how to train and eat its time to research about steroids. That is why I said you are not ready, because the cycle you displayed there is "atrocious" in Tai's words, showing that you have to do a lot of research if you want to do it properly.
Then after that its time to get some injectable test long ester which is just what a steroid begginer needs. Better wait to get the right gear than cycling just what you have available.

As for my question it was just to understand if you were doing an 'oral' cycle just because you were afraid of needles. Lacking the guts to pin yourself just shows you are not commited enough to make all that is necessary to take the full profit out of steroids in the way I see it.

Got it?

[Robbie2hottie]

Having your workout and diet in check is good. If you really do means that you have started with the most important instead of jumping on steroids right away. So now that you know how to train and eat its time to research about steroids. That is why I said you are not ready, because the cycle you displayed there is "atrocious" in Tai's words, showing that you have to do a lot of research if you want to do it properly.
Then after that its time to get some injectable test long ester which is just what a steroid begginer needs. Better wait to get the right gear than cycling just what you have available.

As for my question it was just to understand if you were doing an 'oral' cycle just because you were afraid of needles. Lacking the guts to pin yourself just shows you are not commited enough to make all that is necessary to take the full profit out of steroids in the way I see it.

Got it?

I appreciate that response alot, I don't know why you couldn't have started with that in the first place, thanks.

Anyway, I don't understand the logic of why I would lie on a forum, Trust me I have more needles stuck in me than 99.9% of americans with the amount of surgeries I have had under my belt, point being that I am 100% comfortable with needles of differing sizes. Well as I said, that cycle there wasn't one I myself researched, and no I'm not out just taking random peoples advice on which things work together and then purchasing them, which is why I'm here.

Not that I am trying to take sides, but I am kind of dumbfounded as to why my source would tell me this is a good cycle all things considered, I asked him what would be for first timer and he gave me this, granted I would have got whatever he recommended and he knew that, I already stated I wanted to do anavar so that wasnt just thrown in there because its the most expensive, and hes a very large distributor so I am suprised if he doesn't know his shit.

[N4cer]

Your argument is not very convincing.

I'm not trying to convince anyone or argue. Human physiology is all theory. Some believe more strongly in some theories than others. No need to argue it.

[taiboxa]

I'm not trying to convince anyone or argue. Human physiology is all theory. Some believe more strongly in some theories than others. No need to argue it.

that is true bout the theory.. the human body is an amazing contraption that always seems to be able to adapt to almost anything.. weird to say the least

[magickflash2]

Holy **** don't be so mean to the guy. You can tell him it's a bad idea without calling him names.