Dbol Mfg Date 2001.Expired?Liver pain!

[steropower]

I bought a sealed bottle of 1000 tabs Dbol in 2004.I used almost half of it that year.The results was amazing from Dbol alone at 45mg/Day.

After 3 years i tried again the rest of Dbol and noticed it wasn't as powerful as before.I took double dose to have the same anabolic effect.

I also noticed some light sense of pain after 2-3weeks under the last rib of the right side.I thought it was liver and tried some Milk Thistle.I didn't see much benefit.The pain was there sometimes but sometimes not.It is usually going away when i have some type of activity.

When i first used Dbol i never used Liv52 or MIlk Thistle with it(because found out was slowing down gains)and i didn't have any pains around liver although i did 45mg for 4 weeks and 90mg the following 4 weeks.Kept most of gains too(compared with Test E).

This week i have stopped Dbol but started Test E at 500mg the previous week which was also expired at 2006.The pain seems to get back again and can't control it with Liv52.Could this be of expired Testo?I always control this pain with Liv52.WTF?

Now even after using Liv52 at 9 tabs/Day the pain is there.Is not constant.It hits a bit here and there.I don't have other side effects though.

[steropower]

Also previous week did 3 injections of HCG 1500IU every 4 days for a total of 4500IU's.

Could this be the problem?This was not expired though and refrigerated too.

[FREAK]

hows your water intake?

[steropower]

About 8-10 glasses per day.Does it correlates somehow with liver pain?

[redz]

DBOL is so cheap get rid of it and get new stuff its not worth hurting yourself over a few bucks. The test should be fine but on a side note I just got Test E and it doesnt expire well into 2012. When did you get your Test? the same time as the dbols?

[madmonty]

just wondering why you would want to use gear thats expired by years not days/months.Dnt mess about with yeah health/body just to save money get some fresh in date gear

[im83931]

Doubling a dose of medication that is expired can cause liver/kidney problems. I wont go into the details but it is alway a bad idea. You should trash the expired stuff.

[madmonty]

Doubling a dose of medication that is expired can cause liver/kidney problems. I wont go into the details but it is alway a bad idea. You should trash the expired stuff.

totally agree there why risk your health bin them and get some new stuff in date , you wouldnt eat out of date food dont put out of date gear in ya body isnt worth the risk you only have one body some damage cannot be reversed dont take the risk

[steropower]

I thought the only side was lower effectiveness.That's why i used it.

[steropower]

DBOL is so cheap get rid of it and get new stuff its not worth hurting yourself over a few bucks. The test should be fine but on a side note I just got Test E and it doesnt expire well into 2012. When did you get your Test? the same time as the dbols?

Was bought at 2004 but didn't use them because i was injured in patellar tendon .

I started Dbol at 45mg/day for 2 weeks.I found out it wasn't as effective as before and increased the dose to 90mg/day for 5 more weeks.So i used it for 7 weeks in total.

I have injected 500mg of Test before 10 days(Monday) and 500mg this Monday.The 3 of 4 ampoules were expired.The liver pain came back this Monday.

So 6 weeks Dbol alone,7th week added Test and this week cut Dbol and did only Test.

I will stop everything next week but need a good PCT.

What do you recommend?

Clomid/HCG/Proviron stuff never helped much.I was always losing most of gains.

[steropower]

I feel better today.The drug is getting out of my system.

Liv52 and Milk Thistle must helped.

[longhorn814]

doubt it was liver pain..the liver doesnt have nerve endings...

[steropower]

Maybe but every time i have this kind of pain is due to steroid use.I never had this pain out of steroid cycles.And always manage to eliminate it with Liv52.It can't be placebo.When i first noticed it wasn't aware it was my liver.Took some Liv52 and went away next day.

[powerliftmike]

doubt it was liver pain..the liver doesnt have nerve endings...

yea, and when a medication expires it looses potency, it doesnt turn into some evil drug that kills livers. its really not that big of a deal if its slightly expired.

but some other factors seem to be at play, if dbol makes you sick and hurt dont use it. simple as that.

[steropower]

As i stated earlier Dbol doesn't make me sick at all.

I used the same tabs from the same container(Anabol) in 2004 without liver or any other problems for 2 straight months.Very nice steroid and water retention was a lot less compared to Testo.

[MrTAME]

perhaps it wasnt your liver at all... maybe gas in your large intestine??? I get pains there too...sometimes to the point where I have to stop exactly where I am and not move or else a pain ( 9 out of 10) shoots from that area all the way through my back.

Mine is not liver related, I have no idea what it is to tell you the truth. I had unrelated blood tests for my liver values on a perscription drug and everything was fine.

[kick6]

If it was liver pains it was likely not because it went bad, but because of the high dosage of a 17aa steroid. Dbol is not easy on the liver to begin with, and although it wasn't as effective as a steroid, its harshness on the liver probably didn't degrade over time.

[doublefister]

Possible you might just have some stones passing... Plenty of water should flush it out if thats the case.