So I'm honestly considering running a deca only cycle

[VR4]

It hurts me to actually admit it.
My reasoning behind it is that I do not want to get any acne from running test. I already have terrible bacne naturally, and running test im afraid would make it much worse.

My cousins say their friends have run deca only cycles, and I have read lots of people say they took deca with no deca dick. Also, wouldnt age have something to do with your chance of getting deca dick? As in...younger people just have a better chance of not going limp.

If deca dick is the only reason for using a test also...it really doesnt seem like that big of a deal. Once I run my pct, and get my natural test back to normal...I should be good to go.

Thoughts?

[legobricks]

Deca will shut down your natty test leaving you with NO testosterone in your body. Supplementing Testosterone while running any anabolics provides your body with testosterone so it can function properly. being shut down for so long without testosterone in your body can lead to permanant damage to your endocrine system leaving you with no testosterone at the end and NOT being able to bring it back up. Therefore you would be put on HRT for the rest of your life....Why risk it? There are things you can do for ance bro. And if you looking to get big and not want the sides then why even go for it. Your endocrine system is more important than having acne. And how old are you?

[VR4]

Deca will shut down your natty test leaving you with NO testosterone in your body. Supplementing Testosterone while running any anabolics provides your body with testosterone so it can function properly. being shut down for so long without testosterone in your body can lead to permanant damage to your endocrine system leaving you with no testosterone at the end and NOT being able to bring it back up. Therefore you would be put on HRT for the rest of your life....Why risk it? There are things you can do for ance bro. And if you looking to get big and not want the sides then why even go for it. Your endocrine system is more important than having acne. And how old are you?

Very good point, didnt think of the long run.
The only option I have for acne is accutane, and that left my skin and lips so dry, that I wouldnt be able to even approach girls, so I would have any need to get hard in the first place.

And I am 21.

[J*U*icEd]

good idea go for it... let us know how it turns out for u... btw you won't be able to get it up for women even if you do approach them.... but good luck!

[legobricks]

have you tried acne creams/facial washes? there is soo much out there bro and eventually itll go away for the most part so If ya want to take chances with a very important system in your body then go for it but not worth it IMO. Everyone is different so what worked for some may not work for others.

[VR4]

good idea go for it... let us know how it turns out for u... btw you won't be able to get it up for women even if you do approach them.... but good luck!

viagra wont work?

[J*U*icEd]

it will but you won't be horny!!

[VR4]

have you tried acne creams/facial washes? there is soo much out there bro and eventually itll go away for the most part so If ya want to take chances with a very important system in your body then go for it but not worth it IMO. Everyone is different so what worked for some may not work for others.

I have tried everything....accutane was the only thing that ever worked.
so, say I add a low 200mg/wk test e to my cycle....would i get any noticable sides from it?

[legobricks]

Viagra will dialate the blood vessals to increase bloodflow to the penis. Viagra has nothing to do with arousal. You loose arousal bro and thats why you cant get hard. no test = no sexual desire.

[J*U*icEd]

but do it anyway... ull be a statement for the rest of us who know already!

[soccer#3]

i know several bros here that have ran deca only and never experienced deca dick, infact some had increased libido. not everyone gets deca dick but i think a lot do. ur definetly takin a risk but so is everything else imo. im gonna run deca only too soon, actually npp

[J*U*icEd]

i know several bros here that have ran deca only and never experienced deca dick, infact some had increased libido. not everyone gets deca dick but i think a lot do. ur definetly takin a risk but so is everything else imo. im gonna run deca only too soon, actually npp

if it don't **** you up during cycle it will after!

[soccer#3]

if it don't **** you up during cycle it will after!

please explain

[VR4]

i know several bros here that have ran deca only and never experienced deca dick, infact some had increased libido. not everyone gets deca dick but i think a lot do. ur definetly takin a risk but so is everything else imo. im gonna run deca only too soon, actually npp

How long does it take for the anti-arousel to kick in?
What if I keep test on hand, and if I do get deca dick, then I will start taking test too.

[J*U*icEd]

it will shut you down so hard... ur body not having anything that even resembles testosterone, whether exogenous or endogenous... then when trying to recover it will be very very difficult, if not impossible to recover fully, even wit PCT...

[soccer#3]

i've researched deca a lot and i never heard of deca leavin u wit a limp dick on a permanent basis. from what i've read its supposed to be the safest aas out there.

whats ur experience wit deca? are u still limp?

[kostakv]

why only deca, i mean IFF you are going to go for it, go others like dbol, winstrol, and dont even do it, dont even think about it without test.

[soccer#3]

How long does it take for the anti-arousel to kick in?
What if I keep test on hand, and if I do get deca dick, then I will start taking test too.

from what i've read deca takes around 4-5 weeks to kick in so around that time i guess thats when u'll start feelin decreased libido. somebody correct me if im wrong.

then again, test takes 4-5 weeks too kick in. so u'd almost be done wit ur cycle before the test can take an affect unless ur runnin prop.

[soccer#3]

why only deca, i mean IFF you are going to go for it, go others like dbol, winstrol, and dont even do it, dont even think about it without test.

i cant stand test and dbol, winny are not suited for my goals. maybe winny but definetly not dbol

[J*U*icEd]

i've researched deca a lot and i never heard of deca leavin u wit a limp dick on a permanent basis. from what i've read its supposed to be the safest aas out there.

whats ur experience wit deca? are u still limp?

ive never done it before... many other members on this board have and i have heard the horror stories... i know acouple people personally who have done it.... and now 2 of the 3 of them are on HRT and they're not even 30 yet... they didn't want to listen to me, kept doin deca only cycles and now they are ****ed!

[longhorn814]

Very good point, didnt think of the long run.
The only option I have for acne is accutane, and that left my skin and lips so dry, that I wouldnt be able to even approach girls, so I would have any need to get hard in the first place.

And I am 21.

heres a thought, since youre only 21..hold off on the steroids for a couple more years and let your acne go away..it will go away as you get older and give your endocrine system a chance to fully develop..use facial washes or go to a dermatologist if you have too..its still possible to get acne from any steroid..and you realize even during PCT its very possible to get acne b/c your natural test will start working again making acne very possible

[VR4]

ive never done it before... many other members on this board have and i have heard the horror stories... i know acouple people personally who have done it.... and now 2 of the 3 of them are on HRT and they're not even 30 yet... they didn't want to listen to me, kept doin deca only cycles and now they are ****ed!

I find it odd that most the people that say deca will shut you down for sure...have never actually tried it.
And most people that have tried it and posted about it, did not get deca dick.

and using prop (as much as I would hate to) if I do have arousel problems, doesnt seem like a bad idea.

[J*U*icEd]

ive done deca and NPP plenty of times... in fact NPP is my all time favorite sauce... i have just never done it alone... and i always run my test higher then the deca and run the test longer... ive done it plenty of times to know that when deca is in the mix it's harder to recover, it is also a longer recovery...

[J*U*icEd]

you know what instead of arguing about it just do it and let us know the results...

[soccer#3]

ive done deca and NPP plenty of times... in fact NPP is my all time favorite sauce... i have just never done it alone... and i always run my test higher then the deca and run the test longer... ive done it plenty of times to know that when deca is in the mix it's harder to recover, it is also a longer recovery...

here's the million dollar question, what if u wanna avoid test and deca dick? what can u switch the test wit? i really cant stand test

[taiboxa]

i dont even suffer impotence w/ deca only (but i think its related to my significant other)

[J*U*icEd]

use something else like tbol or EQ alone... but test is king... there are only 3 things i like better then test, vagina, NPP, and money... what has test done to you that you hate it so much??

[Big]

you know what instead of arguing about it just do it and let us know the results...

x2^^

[J*U*icEd]

i dont even suffer impotence w/ deca only (but i think its related to my significant other)

youre on HRT tho.. so in a sense your test never gets shut down... well it does but your introducing exogenous testosterone into your endocrine system... correct?!

[legobricks]

i've researched deca a lot and i never heard of deca leavin u wit a limp dick on a permanent basis. from what i've read its supposed to be the safest aas out there.

whats ur experience wit deca? are u still limp?

And where did you get this information? On the steroid profiles? THose profiles are out of date bro. It even explains that EQ is equivilent to Deca in which most of us know that is far from the truth. Your body needs testosterone and shutting it down for a period of 10 weeks can result in a permanant loss of your testosterone production. Notice I said, CAN. Not everyone is the same but it could take 2 or 3 cycles. Come users it can happen after their first deca only cycle. ITs not recomended and not used for that specific purpose. You NEED a testosterone supplement exogenious while running any 19nor derived AAS period! Bad advice is frowned upon on this website, so dont give misleading information that "may be" correct.

[soccer#3]

use something else like tbol or EQ alone... but test is king... there are only 3 things i like better then test, vagina, NPP, and money... what has test done to you that you hate it so much??

i've done tbol several times but never eq. test shuts u down too, i didnt like the sides like hair growth and i have problems keepin my gains on test. and i got a slight gyno from test. when it comes to keepin gains test rated 2/10 and deca rated 9/10.

i liked tbol a lot but i felt too tired on it. i could sleep all day on tbol and i couldnt do any runnin because of the shin splints, lower back pumps.

i think i've read eq only also shuts u down. would u say its safer than deca only?

[taiboxa]

youre on HRT tho.. so in a sense your test never gets shut down... well it does but your introducing exogenous testosterone into your endocrine system... correct?!

nah i dropped test and did deca only.. i have also ran pretty much every compound SOLO just to SEE what happens.. granted.. libido goes byebye and boners are as bullet proof anymore but its SO INDIVIDUALLY BASED you really never know HOW one will respond to a compound.. its all russian roullette

[NightWolf]

it will shut you down so hard... ur body not having anything that even resembles testosterone, whether exogenous or endogenous... then when trying to recover it will be very very difficult, if not impossible to recover fully, even wit PCT...

FALSE statment!
Please explain how the added test will make the Deca not shut him down?

[bpm1]

FYI i got tons of acne from my deca test cycle and not any from my test only cycle and id bet if u ask around ud find thats pretty common

[soccer#3]

And where did you get this information? On the steroid profiles? THose profiles are out of date bro. It even explains that EQ is equivilent to Deca in which most of us know that is far from the truth. Your body needs testosterone and shutting it down for a period of 10 weeks can result in a permanant loss of your testosterone production. Notice I said, CAN. Not everyone is the same but it could take 2 or 3 cycles. Come users it can happen after their first deca only cycle. ITs not recomended and not used for that specific purpose. You NEED a testosterone supplement exogenious while running any 19nor derived AAS period! Bad advice is frowned upon on this website, so dont give misleading information that "may be" correct.

whoa u sayin im givin bad advice? i've seen members say they did deca only and didnt get deca dick. one of the is a monitor. if u read my post i said ur takin a risk. and i said from I"VE seen. dont come talkin about givin bad advice foo

[legobricks]

i've done tbol several times but never eq. test shuts u down too, i didnt like the sides like hair growth and i have problems keepin my gains on test. and i got a slight gyno from test. when it comes to keepin gains test rated 2/10 and deca rated 9/10.

i liked tbol a lot but i felt too tired on it. i could sleep all day on tbol and i couldnt do any runnin because of the shin splints, lower back pumps.

i think i've read eq only also shuts u down. would u say its safer than deca only?

Tbol only cycle is fine, mild cycle that supresses your natty test but doesnt shut it down completely. EQ is mild as well and suppresses your natty test, havent really heard of it shutting you down completely tho and YES I have used this compound. Hair sides can come from any DHT derived AAS IMO, keeping gains is depicted on diet and your PCT and your diet even after PCT. Did you have proper ancilleries while on cycle to prevent the gyno from even happening...doesnt sound like it. And yes Deca is far superior to test in gaining muscle BUT test is needed so your body has some form of test running through it so your not shut down with no test for too long which can result in a permanant loss of your natural testosterone production. And yes most users claim an HRT dose of Test is fine while running 19nor's.

[legobricks]

whoa u sayin im givin bad advice? i've seen members say they did deca only and didnt get deca dick. one of the is a monitor. if u read my post i said ur takin a risk. and i said from I"VE seen. dont come talkin about givin bad advice foo

i've researched deca a lot and i never heard of deca leavin u wit a limp dick on a permanent basis. from what i've read its supposed to be the safest aas out there.

whats ur experience wit deca? are u still limp?

Yes. What you could have said was, "members have used deca and no deca dick BUT its frowned upon here due to its ability to permanantly shut ones natural testosterone production down and that is why you need to supplement a form of test while running deca." Your posts sound encouraging to let him go on without test.

[charbelc1978]

trust all of them your allways suppoed to run more test then deca any one will tell you and i don't know any one who has ran deca bi it self

[legobricks]

FALSE statment!
Please explain how the added test will make the Deca not shut him down?

^^^Wow lots of false information here. No it is not a false statement. Please research and find out why. Or read more in this thread and my posts and youll find out why.

[J*U*icEd]

FALSE statment!
Please explain how the added test will make the Deca not shut him down?

aight bro im done wit this thread... do some research or go ahead and do a deca only cycle... and nightwolf nowhere in my posts does it say that test will prevent him from being shut down by deca, but the added test helps in recovery... and taiboxa i know what you mean it's individual, and you won't know til you try, but russian rulette is a little risky for me, and as for u personally you could just go back on HRT to get ur blood test levels back up, im talking about completely recovering here... but i understand where your coming from