Running orals while on TRT?
Just an idea, of playing around with orals now and then, when on TRT.
The idea is that they have relatively quick action, and while liver toxic, that is not a huge issue if you do not stay on them for long periods of time.
Ussually running an oral only is a no-no, mostly because very few, if any gains are kept, and post cycle crashes in natural testosterone are common, and a lot of size can be lost if PCT is not effective right away.
However, for those of us on TRT, the post cycle crash is really not an issue.
I take 160mg of cyp a week, 80mg mondays and thursdays, forever.
SO if my testoserone level is say 1200 ng/dl before an oral cycle, it would still be there right afterward too.
IM test at doses < 500mg EW hardly effects the liver at all, and 160mg weekly likely does nothing.
So here are a few theories on ways to experiment with orals, for a guy who is already on TRT.
The orals could be anything from Anadrol, to stronger PH's like Halodrol. The type is not of biggest issue.
1: Regular 4 weeks cycle to gain size fast, with likely being able to maintain 90% of the gains, perhaps even 100%, as again there is zero crash after the cycle.
The only real drawback of this method are the bad changes in Lipids that orals produce, and the liver damage. One would have to wait about 4 months to let such things recover before running another oral cycle.
2: The "one week, here and there" cycels. Short shotgun cycles, done for only 5-7 days at a time, now and then. One week of even the strongest orals rarely has much of a terrible effect on the liver or lipids, but does seem to be able to create rapid gains. At least in myself.
3: The one or two days on, every couple of weeks, for times when muscles are sore, and possibly over-worked.
We all know that feeling, where there is really nothing too work, as everything is already sore, and one has been on a diet all week too, trying to cut some fat off. Perhaps also having his some muscles 2 or 3 times in a week, to work on a laging area and now you feel sore as all hell.
Now, in experimenting with myself, I have found, that if there is a day in the week, say saturday my day off from work, and my muscles are sore, and I am hungry as all hell etc...
Then having a cheat meal + an oral steroid, before bed, and perhaps one more oral the next day with a carb load, and maybe a 16oz. prime rib, seems to heal every sore muscle in my body. Maybe that is all in my head?
Anyhow, the evey now and then, less than once a week use of one or two pills, on a cheat day to speed recovery, does seem to work at seeding recovery, especially if taken on an "off day" from the gym.
Keep in mind, all of these hypothetical uses are for a guy who is on TRT, as there is no functional HPTA to be harmed.
The idea is to get lasting effects from the orals, while not being on long enough to seriously change lipids or liver values, or skyrocket blood pressure or RBC.
Idea 3 is my favorite. Just wanted to get some other's thoughts on this.
I think it is an interesting topic anyhow.
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Originally Posted by taiboxa
