cycle question for estrogen problem

[coco06]

I'm currently 260lbs and 17% bodyfat, down from 23% at 280lbs.
I'm on my 13 week of hgh at 4 iu a day. When i run test of any kind my nipples get sore. I want to add more muscle and get body fat way down. I have a supply of tren 100mg,deca 400, tren 125 with test prop 50,eq 300,test cyp 200, anadrol 50 and liquid stanozolol 20mg. what kind of cycle should i run, I thought you have to run some kind of test no matter what to keep ur boys working. Thanks

[10nispro]

what other cylces have you done? What you doing for a pct? Body fat is going to be more diet and cardio...

[coco06]

Im 33yrs old 5'11" bodyfat is 17-18%.
Im doing 4iu of hgh day.
I wanted to run test with hgh because insulin scares the sh@t out of me.
I have tried alot of cycles with crappy results until now.
Right now im running 500mg test cyp a week with 400mg deca week, and tren at 300mg week. But nipples hurt when touched or pressed. Im waiting on nova to come in , I tried 4tabs a day of proviron and liq tamoxifen. nothing helps stop pain. I have clomid but thats suppose to be for after cycle.
Can you run a cycle without test safely?

[magicstick2003]

problem may be from running the tren and deca together..... along with the test. ur estrogen/progesterone levels are probably sky high which would explain the nip sensitivity. nolva will lead to more problem in conjunction with the tren and deca. shoulda used an AI from the start, pick up some adex or letro. and you'll need something for prog. sides like caber or bromo. B6 may help until you get those in. Prime example why you need ot have everything in hand prior to starting man.

[10nispro]

Its usually the deca that causes the gyno problems. Don't use nova with deca. Letro is a better choice.

Yes, you can run cycles without test. There are lots of non test cycles, but you may have to search some.

[10nispro]

problem may be from running the tren and deca together..... along with the test. ur estrogen/progesterone levels are probably sky high which would explain the nip sensitivity. nolva will lead to more problem in conjunction with the tren and deca. shoulda used an AI from the start, pick up some adex or letro. and you'll need something for prog. sides like caber or bromo. B6 may help until you get those in. Prime example why you need ot have everything in hand prior to starting man.

Agreed...I forgot about the caber.

[coco06]

Starting on week 4 of hgh I ran just test cyp for 3 weeks (thats when pain started) tried aromisin it didnt work
Week 7-10 test cyp and deca ( still pain with liq tamox)
week 11-13 test cyp , deca, and tren ( tren seems to work the best for me with noticable gains) Still pain with provarin

[magicstick2003]

letro, caber, or bromo might be your best options. if it really bothers you have u considered stopping the deca and tren?

[coco06]

does proviron take days or weeks to help with this problem? Just curious