Newbie needs advice

**Meballzrhry** · 01-28-2008, 09:49 PM

Hey Guys,
I am 36,235lbs and 15% BF. I have never used anything. I am contemplating using and would like to know what would work for me? I have access to enanthate . I have source looking for VAR for my first cycle...but he states that it could be quite pricey. I am not looking to make groundbreaking gains ...but would like to slim and gain strength. I f VAR is not available or at teh right cost it looks like enan will be it. That being said if I used enan only what would be the minimum amount you/I could take to elicit strength and definition without gaining toooo much bulk?

How much would VAR cost and how much would I need to get good not great results?

Thanks in advance for your help guys!

**Big** · 01-28-2008, 09:54 PM

The most commonly recommended first cycle is test e at 500mg/week for 12 weeks. You need to follow that with a good pct, if you're not familiar with pct do some research on that and get everything you need in hand before you start.

**legobricks** · 01-28-2008, 09:54 PM

Damn how tall are you? Pretty big dude already. No price discussion on this board but VAR is expensive. Primo and Winny are good options as well. Prop is also good by itself and bloat is minimal, or prop can be stacked with things like masteron , primo, winny, tren , etc...pretty much anything but your goals look more like you want to gain some lean lbs and some strength. Enanthate can be used while cutting but youll have to adjust your diet as well as us an AI like adex to cut the bloat to a minimal. I usually bloat up pretty good on enanthate but i like that.

**hobbs9963** · 01-28-2008, 09:55 PM

I wouldn't discuss any prices here. You can get a lot of info here if you look around first. To see what might suit you as far as doses go.

**legobricks** · 01-28-2008, 09:58 PM

Originally Posted by Ima******ger

The most commonly recommended first cycle is test e at 500mg/week for 12 weeks. You need to follow that with a good pct, if you're not familiar with pct do some research on that and get everything you need in hand before you start.

PCT is HUGE! If you don't have on hand OR you do improperly then your gains will diminish quickley or you may not be able to recover your natural testosterone and at your age (not sayin your old at all) that is something you def. want to consider.

**Meballzrhry** · 01-28-2008, 09:59 PM

Thanks guys....I did not see the price aversion rule! I am 6'0 235. Looking for lean as you stated. I appreciate the quick help and I will be checking the site and keep asking until I decide on what I need/want. I think I want to do a daily/weekly progress post for my first cycle.

**legobricks** · 01-28-2008, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by Meballzrhry

Thanks guys....I did not see the price aversion rule! I am 6'0 235. Looking for lean as you stated. I appreciate the quick help and I will be checking the site and keep asking until I decide on what I need/want. I think I want to do a daily/weekly progress post for my first cycle.

Thank you for the open ears! Def. read up a bit more and like in the steroid profile section. There are also stickies in the diet section that will help you out with a lean bulk or even cutting. PCT can be found under Anthony Roberts PCT in the PCT forum. Lots of great advice there as well. Once you have found out what you want and can get post it up and we'll gladly critique it for you.