Shreded..

[Phreakyz]

Hi guys im frm india.. 6'2 .. bf% arnd 11.2% .. weight 185lbs.. need to completely rip down.. thinkin of a combination cycle which includes..

Anavar
Clen
T3 (cytomel)
Winstrol
Primobolon

dont knw how to combine these juices to achieve a maximum ripped look as im into modeling .. Help urgent.. thanx a million

the winstrol and primobolon r injectables while the others r all oral.. also could yu let me knw which brands of the juices to take.. the ones yu get in india are diff.. which are:

Want to knw which juices r the most effective and what are the corresponding companies that deliver the maximum result..


Thanxx... Cheers

[soccer#3]

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[ChuckLee]

We can't mention UGL lab names or discuss brand names, but I'm glad to help you on the other questions.
Firstly, I'll leave the primo and substitute it with a basic, Test Propionate would be the best choice, because Primoboland takes too long to take effect on a cutting cycle.
Anavar and Winstrol are two quite liver-toxic compounds, so I'll take off one of those and add in alternative some Tren Acetate, to maximize results. Something like this:

Test P : 8 weeks @ 400 mg/wk
Tren A : 7 Weeks @ 300 mg/wk
Winny : 6 weeks @ 50 mg/day

For the Clen/T3 protocol:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=137526

Cheers.
CL

[shifty_git]

We can't mention UGL lab names or discuss brand names, but I'm glad to help you on the other questions.
Firstly, I'll leave the primo and substitute it with a basic, Test Propionate would be the best choice, because Primoboland takes too long to take effect on a cutting cycle.
Anavar and Winstrol are two quite liver-toxic compounds, so I'll take off one of those and add in alternative some Tren Acetate, to maximize results. Something like this:

Test P : 8 weeks @ 400 mg/wk
Tren A : 7 Weeks @ 300 mg/wk
Winny : 6 weeks @ 50 mg/day

For the Clen/T3 protocol:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=137526

Cheers.
CL

personally id stay away from tren if your a first time user!

hows ya diet? post it with macros.

If your looking to loose any bf, check out the link above.

[shifty_git]

infact, check out perfectbeasts clen thread...

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=269240

id also personally stay away from t3 if your not on aas, as can easily loose muscle as well as fat from using it.. so ends up not making you look any leaner, just thinner.

[soulstealer]

Throw some test in their and do something like:

200mg of test EW 1-12
40mg Var ED week 1-10
Parabolin 300mg EW 2-9
T3 75mcg ED week 2-10
cycle clen 2weeks on/off 80mcg ED

would give you replacement test lvls and make you anabolic as hell... with reasonably low doses combine that with the right cardio/diet reg... and you'll shred like hell..

On a side note your 6'2" 185 you look like a little girl?

[shifty_git]

but before anythin else, you still need to edit the ugl names out of ya first post.

[scaramouche]

i dont mean to nitpick, but if ur 6' 2" @ 11% and 185lbs, if u cut any more ud snap

[shifty_git]

i dont mean to nitpick, but if ur 6' 2" @ 11% and 185lbs, if u cut any more ud snap

Thats exactly why i was thinking T3 would be way over the top,
and why a totally random list of compounds wasnt worth anything...

Personally i think ya diet is the way to go, and why IF there is any need to loose bf clen would surfice....

aas isnt a miracle short cut to looking like a magazine cover.

[Phreakyz]

We can't mention UGL lab names or discuss brand names, but I'm glad to help you on the other questions.
Firstly, I'll leave the primo and substitute it with a basic, Test Propionate would be the best choice, because Primoboland takes too long to take effect on a cutting cycle.
Anavar and Winstrol are two quite liver-toxic compounds, so I'll take off one of those and add in alternative some Tren Acetate, to maximize results. Something like this:

Test P : 8 weeks @ 400 mg/wk
Tren A : 7 Weeks @ 300 mg/wk
Winny : 6 weeks @ 50 mg/day

For the Clen/T3 protocol:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=137526

Cheers.
CL

wat if i replace the test propionate with sustanon? will that have a good effect..? my main goal is to lose a bit of fat and water around my abdomen but at the same time i wanna look ripped with lean muscle.. like a model to be precise but i dont want to look big and toooo muscular on the camera as over here we need to be sporting a lean toned body rather than a muscular bulky one.. a lean ripped physique is wat im lookin out for.. i wanna bring down my weight to arnd 165 lbs with addition to a bit of muscle.. meaning i wanna go bare chested on the ramp with the abs n all.. my projects are gonna be starting from mid march so i wanna start preparing for them.. give me yur best advice on wat can be done for the same..

Thanx Guys..

[legobricks]

Id suggest a Primobolan and Winny cycle (no need to flame as its been used by many seasoned bodybuilders in my area with stellar results as far as cutting up...although diet and cardio is the majority of that). Test is overrated IMO and a primo winny cycle would get you some very nice results....although.....you are small as it is unless you are just very unproportioned and being a model thats what it sounds like. I have known a few people who have nice size arms, decent chest, no spread to their back but good def. and chicken legs who weigh in at 180 bout the same height as you. they were farely lean but still a lot of weight can be missing if your legs are like pencils. At your stats tho, clean up your diet and I think you could obtain your goals. AAS will help you further your goals tho which i cant blame you. Do some searches on all those compounds and it should help you get an idea how to run it. Come back with that idea and we'll critique it for you.

[legobricks]

forgot to mention, plan out a cutting diet and also post that with macros (thanks shifty ) and that will be critiqued to the best of everyones knowledge here. I think you will be very happy with the results of diet alone. Also check out cutting diets in the "Diet Forum" and compare with what you have.

[Elusive]

6'2 165lbs doesnt sound healthy, Id just focus on toning what you've got. Cardio, diet, and ight weight high reps.

[Phreakyz]

Id suggest a Primobolan and Winny cycle (no need to flame as its been used by many seasoned bodybuilders in my area with stellar results as far as cutting up...although diet and cardio is the majority of that). Test is overrated IMO and a primo winny cycle would get you some very nice results....although.....you are small as it is unless you are just very unproportioned and being a model thats what it sounds like. I have known a few people who have nice size arms, decent chest, no spread to their back but good def. and chicken legs who weigh in at 180 bout the same height as you. they were farely lean but still a lot of weight can be missing if your legs are like pencils. At your stats tho, clean up your diet and I think you could obtain your goals. AAS will help you further your goals tho which i cant blame you. Do some searches on all those compounds and it should help you get an idea how to run it. Come back with that idea and we'll critique it for you.

Hey buddy thanx for this advice.. will be lookin forward to trying this out.. could yu also let me knw that i dont need to be lookin for water retention at all so will the primo and winny help to lose all the retained water around the abdomen which is loose skin to be precise.. actually i 4got to mention i was wei***ng about 145 kg which is about 285lbs around 2 years ago wid a bf of around 35%.. started workin out and did intense cardio and took lots of fat burners .. brought my weight to my current which is 170 lbs.. nw i wanna make the lean chisseled physique which has more cuts and striations in the muscle fibers wid a decent amount of muscle mass & not focussing more on the bulkier side.. i just wanna knw tht will TEST bloat me up? coz i want a minimal increment in weight.. i did a winstrol clen t3 cycle.. saw an amazing increase in hardness and strength and a substantial fat loss got to see my upper and middle abs wid a nice cut in the serratus.. not being able to get the lower abs no matter wat .. is it true that yu need to have completed at least 3-4 cutting cycles to achieve that shreded look or will that be possible if i go through wid the cycle yu have suggested me?.. seriously man im soooo freakin confused of wat to do that im getting really mind F*****.. confused between anavar winstrol primo and tren acetate.. will the orals work better than the injectables? which brand of winny and the corresponding juices shld i also take its soooo confusing im in a complete mess.. the bottom line is that i need to be acting quickly so i can start off wid my cycle asap ... im really sorry for pestering soo much but im a complete blank plus all of yu'll knw the best abt all these things coz the ppl and trainers out here dont knw a shit abt all this..

[Phreakyz]

Hey buddy thanx for this advice.. will be lookin forward to trying this out.. could yu also let me knw that i dont need to be lookin for water retention at all so will the primo and winny help to lose all the retained water around the abdomen which is loose skin to be precise.. actually i 4got to mention i was wei***ng about 145 kg which is about 285lbs around 2 years ago wid a bf of around 35%.. started workin out and did intense cardio and took lots of fat burners .. brought my weight to my current which is 170 lbs.. nw i wanna make the lean chisseled physique which has more cuts and striations in the muscle fibers wid a decent amount of muscle mass & not focussing more on the bulkier side.. i just wanna knw tht will TEST bloat me up? coz i want a minimal increment in weight.. i did a winstrol clen t3 cycle.. saw an amazing increase in hardness and strength and a substantial fat loss got to see my upper and middle abs wid a nice cut in the serratus.. not being able to get the lower abs no matter wat .. is it true that yu need to have completed at least 3-4 cutting cycles to achieve that shreded look or will that be possible if i go through wid the cycle yu have suggested me?.. seriously man im soooo freakin confused of wat to do that im getting really mind F*****.. confused between anavar winstrol primo and tren acetate.. will the orals work better than the injectables? which brand of winny and the corresponding juices shld i also take its soooo confusing im in a complete mess.. the bottom line is that i need to be acting quickly so i can start off wid my cycle asap ... im really sorry for pestering soo much but im a complete blank plus all of yu'll knw the best abt all these things coz the ppl and trainers out here dont knw a shit abt all this..

??? Guys any info plzzz

[Noobie4LIFE]

Your cycle is ridiculous and way overkill.

What would your bulking cycle look like?

Dbol/testE/test susp/deca/drol/EQ/GH/SLin/IGF?

[Phreakyz]

Your cycle is ridiculous and way overkill.

What would your bulking cycle look like?

Dbol/testE/test susp/deca/drol/EQ/GH/SLin/IGF?

i have just used dbol before.. tht was to gain a bit of size coz i had lost extreme weight.. now i wanna bring down my fat% as well as lose the bulk.. in other words make it more sharp and defined.. with abs and to a body weight of abt 160-165lbs.. as i need to walk the ramp i need to have a proportioned body wid thin legs and a lean broad chest and flat abs like a model to be precise..

[Phreakyz]

guys.. how will this be for a rip up cycle..

clen.. anavar .. ketophin..

[legobricks]

I think right now your focused too much on chemicals when you should be looking at your diet as we have stated. you have lost a substantial amount of weight already and you could get away with a lean bulk or cutting diet. Please check them out in the diet forum.

[Phreakyz]

well ive been foccused on the diet.. high protein low carbs.. but will the above mentioned stuff help ?

[legobricks]

Clen will help for sure. Read up on it first.

[football2007]

you wanna be 165 at 6'2"

Eek..

[Phreakyz]

okie lego.. will try it out n let yu knw.. i noticed an increase in my weight after i was done with the winstrol.. is that supposed to happen? i also noticed a bit of water retention

[soulstealer]

okie lego.. will try it out n let yu knw.. i noticed an increase in my weight after i was done with the winstrol.. is that supposed to happen? i also noticed a bit of water retention

Your 11% BF if you want to understand how it works... here we go..... I'm going to use round numbers for my math......

Lets assume you were dieting on 3000 calories a day very strictly..... working out 5d a week.... all the sudden weight loss stops 2 things happen here you reach a point where you are maintaining your body mass through maintenance calorie consumption but more importantly... your body is reducing your T3/T4 output... this is occuring to make your body more efficient at utilizing those calories for energy as your body is attempting to reach homeostasis... now you have 2 choices... continue to lower calores (if you do this your body most likely will believe you are starving further decreasing Thyroid hormone(T3/T4)production and cannibalizing your muscle cells for energy... and as you get here... nutrient timing becomes highly important to prevent this...... and choice 2 add cardio(which your body will adapt to again) and try to increase thyroid hormone production....how do we do this by CHEATING or carb loading/deloading... the excess insulin tricks your body into increasing your hormone which happens to be a very involved neurotic task if natural or if unnatural need not be followed unless your looking for 3ish%BF... So lets stop here as your question pertains to a cycle including T3+steroids.... So in essence just forget what you read here add T3 and your good the bad part T3 doesnt care what it burns be it muscle or fat, so how do we solve this you ask? we add steroids... not to burn the fat physically but to retain the muscle while your dieting so damn hard....

To sum this all up... If your diet + lifting + cardio are spot on...and you add A low dose of T3 + test(test because your body NEEDS it and should always be run with a cycle) maybe another compound or two you become a muscle retaining fat burning machine.....

This being your first cycle which I didnt notice at first..... I would not suggest anything more then maybe a Test + Var cycle + T3 cycle... on a side note... your probably very neurotic about how you used to look... and I would suggest at 11% BF you do a lean bulk you will look a hell of alot better @ 12% BF 200lbs then at 6%BF 165lbs 6'2"...... anyway I hope I answered your questions PM if you want...

[Phreakyz]

will give this a try as well.. but wht if i drastically reduce my calorie intake and then combine it wid T3 clen ketophin.. and add VAR for the hardness.. will tht help? the doc strictly warned me abt the test.. said not to be taken as my natural test levels r on the higher side.. very high body hair growth.. will the orals help if i go the way of strict dieting and high intensity cardio training ??

[soulstealer]

List PCT in the PCT forum and Diet in the diet forum before you even think about running your cycle... you want help you have to listen to what the members say here most people know what there talking about and will keep you from fking yourself up... because you can... and you will if you go about this recklessly...

[ottomaddox]

I'm 6'3" @ 215 and I feel skinny.

you wanna be 165 at 6'2"

Eek..