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05-10-2007, 08:31 PM #1Junior Member
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Unloseable fat?
Is there such a thing as unloseable fat...I've maintained 15-18% bf my whole life and am finally trying to get lean, i'm at about 13-14% and there is this "pooch" of fat on my lower abs that is quite prominent that does'nt seem to be moving....is there such a thing as fat that you can't lose?
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05-10-2007, 08:39 PM #2
well no i wouldnt say so everyone has problem areas good diet and a good workout routine are it bro good luck. dont get discouraged hang in there it will happen before you realize it.
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05-10-2007, 08:47 PM #3Junior Member
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I have that too.. I've never been "ripped" but this year it will happen.. Just stay with your diet and keep kicking the cardio up a notch every couple weeks.. I'm as close as I've ever been and it's cause I amped up my cardio.. just keep it up..
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05-10-2007, 09:31 PM #4Associate Member
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its all about diet and being active, if i didnt exercise or watch my diet i'd be a 300lb blob
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05-10-2007, 09:59 PM #5
The bottem of abs,for me was the last to go and most stubborn .I finally started to really lose it when I did morning cardio before I ate
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05-10-2007, 11:30 PM #6
there is no such thing as fat that you cant lose, however, you do reach a plateua where the body fights hard to keep the fat you have (especially the mid section). You just have to step up the cardio and be 100% with your diet. Post diet lets have a look.
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05-11-2007, 04:16 AM #7
Wait till you get over 40 bro!
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05-11-2007, 01:08 PM #8Member
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05-11-2007, 01:18 PM #9Junior Member
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Diet CKD, at the moment.
sun-fri
2300-2500cals
180-190g protein
180-190g fat
<20g carbs, from fibrous veggies and walnuts.
Sat
600-800g carbs
200-300g protein
<20fat
low gi carbs (sweet potatoes, besides pwo shake(100g))
Low Volume Heavy resist training sun-fri
sat HIT full body
1-2hours of aerobic work a day
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05-11-2007, 01:19 PM #10
i would up protien and lower carbs especially on weekends thats just crazy.
check your tyroid and see if its slow or some thing.
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05-11-2007, 01:32 PM #11Junior Member
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Hmm, I found that replenishing musle glycogen with that much carbs worked fine without overspill. The whole idea is that it brings you back to supranormal levels of glycogen storage (around 170mmkg as opposed to 140mmkg), thus making it easier to maintain muscle tissue and possibly add some....I have been losing around a lb a week, and strength has not gone down, so I know it works...and I did progress into the ketogenic diet. The only thing is everything is getting leaner except that area, last night was the only time I noticed it lookin smaller...maybe the extra bit of cardio is working now or something.
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05-11-2007, 01:33 PM #12Junior Member
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supps: taurine, bcaa, multi, clen , fish oil, greens+, going to add b6
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05-11-2007, 01:57 PM #13Associate Member
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Originally Posted by Alpha_Romeo
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05-11-2007, 02:45 PM #14Junior Member
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Well, thats not a bad idea, seeing as how there is only 2 risks involved.
1.) Death from infection by having a foreign body entering you.
2.)Death from Anasthesia.
Not big risks, but still i'm anal.
At this point I don't have the money, and I want to keep fighting the good fight. The problem is fat from lipo is even't permanent, recent studies on the subject reveal that your body regenerates adipocytes lost, not in the same area, but kind of randomly.
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05-11-2007, 02:56 PM #15
Supplement with Yohimbine HCL, Gugglstone, CLA, and Clen .
Should help with getting rid of the last ounces of bf you have left.
~GHO5T~
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05-11-2007, 02:58 PM #16Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001
Homeostasis can be mean to the bb'er. But you also have to listen to your body, enhance what works, and dump what doesn't. To add to Beast's cardio comment, be sure to cross train with different forms (steps, tread, bike, hills, rope, etc.) to prevent adaptation. Be sure to experiment with your diet. Don't just say I'm going with XYZ number of carbs, proteins, and fats…explore to find YOUR best combinations.
Edward Deming, the father of TQM Total Quality Management said that it works so well because the system is constantly evaluated and regularly updated based on feedback. Be the same way!
M.
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05-11-2007, 03:02 PM #17Originally Posted by NewVader
If you get lipo for your lovehandles, you might as well start using synthol and get a bicept implant while youre at it. What a fuvking joke.
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05-11-2007, 03:02 PM #18Junior Member
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Yohimbine HCL and Clen ? Is that safe, or is just to prevent a negative feedback loop (I forget which one).
As for Magic I do change my diet around quite a bit, i'm going to come out of ketosis for a couple of weeks and diet with carbs, and then go back in to it.
I am always frequently changing my aerobic work, evening during a session....
also stats are
190lb (carb ***leted, in ketosis)
5'11"
13-14%bf (Which I can never seem to get below)
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05-11-2007, 03:09 PM #19Associate Member
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post your diet, if you cannot get below 13-14% the diet is the 1st thing to look at. you can take all the fat burners in the world and do tons of cardio but if your diet sucks your not gonna lose any fat
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05-11-2007, 03:12 PM #20Junior Member
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I did post it....also what the hell is gugglestones anyway, is'nt it a T3 derivative or something?
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05-11-2007, 03:22 PM #21
Absolutely true. I struggle with area but in the end I surmount it through sheer will. As I shred up, I have you in mind PB - I'm looking to one-up you bro! I think I can and I'll prove it with pics or eat my words!
Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001
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05-11-2007, 03:26 PM #22
you have a long wast or short waste. i am short wasted and never could loose it all. I had bf 4.2% when i did triathlons for a living and still had the small pooch
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05-11-2007, 03:51 PM #23Associate Member
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Originally Posted by Alpha_Romeo
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05-11-2007, 03:57 PM #24
one word
"ReVerse Crunchs's" opps i lied thats 2 darn it. reverse crunchs hit the lower ab's more than the top, well any crunch is a crunch you use the whole ab section but the when you do reverse crunchs your lower abs are contracted more give em a try im sure you will get what you are lookin for i had this problem after my car wreck got that little gut so i tried these suckers out and worked good for me.
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05-11-2007, 03:59 PM #25
most everyone says diet, take this, take that, never thinking about a different exercise that could target that muscle.
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05-11-2007, 04:24 PM #26
Not true. With the right conditions, you're body has no choice but to use those stores!
Originally Posted by 10nispro
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05-11-2007, 04:26 PM #27
Targeting a muscle has little to do with body recomposition.
Originally Posted by dieselrip
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05-11-2007, 04:28 PM #28
One word: Wrong! No such thing as spot reduction. But that's what this board is about, becoming knowledgable. Good luck.
Originally Posted by dieselrip
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05-11-2007, 04:28 PM #29Associate Member
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Originally Posted by Mike Dura
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05-11-2007, 04:30 PM #30Associate Member
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Originally Posted by Mike Dura
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05-11-2007, 04:38 PM #31
Wrong again! One word, liposuction! Yawn!!! lol
Originally Posted by jackman22
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05-11-2007, 04:43 PM #32
I have really good abs and I've never done any ab work. Those muscles have always been there. You only see them when I get my bodyfat low enough and I do that through endless cardio and a ketogenic diet. They are coming in pretty nice now and my ketostix (which indicates ketone bodies in your urine) are reading purple so I know I'm burning fat).
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05-11-2007, 04:50 PM #33Junior Member
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I've been whizzing ketones for 2-3 weeks now...it seems to be working...this god damn lower gut is pissing me off, it's like ****in adiposdystrophy or some shit.
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05-11-2007, 04:55 PM #34
Helios is another great product for spot reduction.
You shoot it sub q in the area where you desire localized fat loss, and with time fat loss occurs in that area.
Great reviews have been given to the product, in many cases it has been used by many to get rid of their love handles.
~GHO5T~
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05-11-2007, 05:15 PM #35
I've never heard of that. I don't see many UGL's carrying that. Is it scarce?
Originally Posted by GHO5T
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05-11-2007, 05:15 PM #36
In due time my brother. I know that feeling of impatience.
Originally Posted by Alpha_Romeo
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05-11-2007, 05:25 PM #37Originally Posted by Mike Dura
The bros ive talked to that have used the compound have given it a huge bump, saying it works great for spot reduction.
However diet and cardio must be spot on, but localized fat loss is noticable when the compound is used.
~GHO5T~
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05-11-2007, 05:40 PM #38
Injected sub Q? I have to research that sounds neat.
Originally Posted by GHO5T
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05-11-2007, 06:35 PM #39Junior Member
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Has anyone tried helios, I just got done reading about it.... sounds like there is potential. I have been dieting since sept., I tried everything (ephedra, cytomel , clen , yohimbe, etc), I was running for 45 min 6 days a week. The only thing that worked to bring out my lower abbs was dnp . Lipo would be best though b/c you actually remove fet cells instead of just shrinking them.
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05-11-2007, 06:47 PM #40Originally Posted by Mike Dura
SPOT REDUCING
For years scientists and exercise physiologists said that there was no such thing as spot reducing. Arnold Schwarzenegger, in his book, 'Encyclopedia of Modern Bodybuilding,' said, 'Exercise authorities tell us there is no such thing as spot reducing. But there is something that LOOKS like spot reducing'. He then went on to detail how it works in real life. He was right.
It turns out that when you increase blood flow to a muscle group during exercise, the high level of adrenal hormones in the blood stream act forcefully on the fat tissue surrounding the working muscle. This increase allows the proximity fat ***osits to be broken down quickly and used as an energy source by the working muscle.
An effective way to take advantage of this new information is to train the area or muscle group several times a day for five to ten minutes with a moderate resistance, pumping routine. This will work especially well for the thighs, hips, and a**ominals. A good way to get quick results for clients is start them off by training the body part they wish to reduce, and finish the workout with it, too.
now do you care to revise your statement mr. your wrong. your the one that is wrong and is in need of updating your info
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