Tren...to Stack Or Not?

[STEROIDMD]

Question to anyone with working knowledge of tren. I'm trying to do my research on it as its seems to be a very attractive option. However I find a lot of conflicting info about it. Many people say that using it with nandrolone and nolvadex is not a good idea beacuse nandro is too similar and nolva can aggravate possible progest. related gyno. Then I ran across this article this morning. http://www.ianabolicsteroids.com/parabolan-roberts.htm If anyone has a minute to read it and comment I would appreciate it.

[longhorn814]

tren should always be run with some dose of test..this is your first cycle..you need to look at test and your diet..save tren for another cycle

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199832

[STEROIDMD]

Seems like such a great drug though and I don't like test because I'm so prone to gyno even with nolva.

[longhorn814]

Seems like such a great drug though and I don't like test because I'm so prone to gyno even with nolva.

it works very synergistically with test..you dont have to run it higher than tren..i commonly do a low dose of test 350mg/wk and 700mg of tren..take an AI it will stop the conversion of test to estrogen if your concerned about gyno

[STEROIDMD]

An AI like arimidex or letro? And is it ok to use the research stuff because its so much less expensive. And to I use it during or as PCT or both?

[hobbs9963]

Yea, me and my workout partner read a couple of similar articles a few years ago and that's why we didn't stack it with anything. A couple of friends also backed that up. How can you really tell how good one substance is if you stack it with another? Anyway, we loved it and had no ill effects from using by itself. We did stack with test e once and got good gains also. But i don't recommend it for a 1st,2nd or even 3rd time juicer. There are too many sides with tren. I've done no less than a dozen cycles and tren's sides are the worse. First cycle= stay away from it.

[longhorn814]

yes arimidex or letro is fine..and research stuff is fine as long its from a reputable place..the site sponsor is very good

[STEROIDMD]

What were you sides with tren?

[hobbs9963]

Lets see, no sleep, no sex, high blood pressure, night sweets, aggression, frequent injections. Those are just my sides. Other members will have others as well. Really though, i'm not even sure you're ready for any aas. Let alone tren. It's no joke man and i'm not kiddin.
Why don't you give us some stats? Workout history? Age?

[STEROIDMD]

stats: 31 years. 185lbs. 5'9. Been working out since I was 15 but took some time off. Been back at it for about a year. Did a lot of test, eq, and primo when I was early 20's but not much since then.

[hobbs9963]

What are you goals?

[STEROIDMD]

U still with me hobbsy?

[STEROIDMD]

goals: 250lbs and hung like a horse. Lol! Would like to stay fairly lean and get up to 195-200lbs.

[STEROIDMD]

With no bitch tits!

[hobbs9963]

I don't know bout hung like a horse, mine tends to shrivel up and go into hiding. I always like some good old test e with dbol to gain. Of course bitch tits would be an issue. I would do that for a good bulk then cut it back and see where you're at. I had a 2 year layoff and that's what i would of done if the prices and availability wasn't off the chart around here. Anyway i chose tren a cause i'm familiar with it and easily obtained but i'm still trying to work with the sides.

[longhorn814]

whats your diet look like for starters?

[STEROIDMD]

I have 2 packs of oatmeal with 1 scoop vanilla whey when I get up @ 6, leanbody shake @ 10:00, turkey or tuna sandwhich with salad for lunch, leanbody shake @ 4, workout @ 6, chicken, fish, or pork chop with some type of rice for dinner @ 8:00.

[fdrx7man]

more of a lean diet.. but you need more food man!