Dont kill the new guy...

[gunnut79]

First off, I am 28 y/o, 5'11'', and 215 lbs. My body fat is about 16%. I have started a cycle of sust 250 (my first). I am shooting 500 mg/week....

Well first off, I am paranoid as hell that I am not getting what I am paying for. I have read a lot on here about fake gear, and unsterile gear. I trust my source, but I dont know his source. How long should it take to start feeling the results in the gym? I have only been on it for about 5 days. Oh, I forgot to mention that I am not only a little paranoid but impatient as well. Is there any "sign" that will let me know if my gear is junk. Sorry to sound like a ***** but this is the first "illegal substance" I have ever put in my body. A little help would be awesome.

-----Thanks in advance.

[shifty_git]

The gear ugl or pharm grade? (if ugl just say yes and dont mention the name)

Normally with sus the short esters should start kicking in within a week, but more 2 weeks till you feel propper effects.

You sex drive started to raise yet?

[gunnut79]

UGL...My sex drive sucks already. My wife was looking forward to the cycle, haha. I dont think it has started to come up yet, but is that one of the first things I will notice? I have become the guy that wishes his balls would shrivel up. WOW how things have changed.

[Panzerfaust80]

I still dont get why the fuk anyone would do AAS when they are already MARRIED!! LMAO.

thats the point of getting MARRIED so u dont have to give a fuk about how each other looks anymore!!

R u getting stronger in gym? gettin nuff rest?

[shifty_git]

hmmm well sex drive is normally one of the first signs..

you know anyone else who has used gear from your supplier?

id wait another week then make up ya mind if its duff gear...

[shifty_git]

I still dont get why the fuk anyone would do AAS when they are already MARRIED!! LMAO.

thats the point of getting MARRIED so u dont have to give a fuk about how each other looks anymore!!
R u getting stronger in gym? gettin nuff rest?

cause if she leaves ya and ya end up back on the market as an out of shape fatty, what are ya chances!! lol

and also good to do something for ya self and have ya own goals imo.

also, wifes dont look as great after so many years, so ya need that test help! ha ha

[gunnut79]

Getting married is a really good way to send your sex drive to hell. I have talked to people who have used this gear and they said they could tell right off the bat because it made them hungry. I am not really that much hungrier that I was before. I do get plenty of rest (I am obviously not up all night having sex.) I am getting a little stronger, but I just thought I was a bad-ass. jk lol

[gunnut79]

also, wifes dont look as great after so many years, so ya need that test help! ha ha

no shite

[Panzerfaust80]

cause if she leaves ya and ya end up back on the market as an out of shape fatty, what are ya chances!! lol

and also good to do something for ya self and have ya own goals imo.

also, wifes dont look as great after so many years, so ya need that test help! ha ha

LOL guess i never thought of it like that ... i guess if i figure shes gonna leave u then u shouldnt have married the biatch anyway.. i suppose u dont know till its too late or till u find pubes scattered in ur bed (and they dont match ur hair color hahaha)

[Panzerfaust80]

Getting married is a really good way to send your sex drive to hell. I have talked to people who have used this gear and they said they could tell right off the bat because it made them hungry. I am not really that much hungrier that I was before. I do get plenty of rest (I am obviously not up all night having sex.) I am getting a little stronger, but I just thought I was a bad-ass. jk lol

LMFAO!! that shit was funny im sorry i def. laughed right after i read that... Thats a good quote to put on a tombstone or something!

PLEASE dont get us started with AAS and appetite. we just finished a LONG thread going back and forth whether its placebo effect or if it really occurs. (I think it really occurs). hope n4cer dosent see this thread

hmmm.. ever thought u might need a new wife and not ne more test??

hey shifty i hear wedding bells in ur future man!! better stock up on the test while u can hehe

just messin hey id stick with it man, whaddaya got to lose?? if its fake well then at least uve kicked ass in the gym for a few weeks and now u can begin looking for real shit.. if its real well then youll be bangin like jackrabbits hopefully!

[shifty_git]

Getting married is a really good way to send your sex drive to hell. I have talked to people who have used this gear and they said they could tell right off the bat because it made them hungry. I am not really that much hungrier that I was before. I do get plenty of rest (I am obviously not up all night having sex.) I am getting a little stronger, but I just thought I was a bad-ass. jk lol

Well sometimes people expect 2 much 2 quickly... carry on for another week or 2 and then make a judgement...

The longer esters of sus wont be kicking in till atleast week 3-4, so wait till then as could always be a possibility that its test e rather than sus.

LOL guess i never thought of it like that ... i guess if i figure shes gonna leave u then u shouldnt have married the biatch anyway.. i suppose u dont know till its too late or till u find pubes scattered in ur bed (and they dont match ur hair color hahaha)

As long as there not ginger! An affair i could possibly deal with.. but not with a ginger! ha ha

[gunnut79]

Thanks for the advice guys.

[Panzerfaust80]

R u being sarcastic?

[gunnut79]

no not at all.

[gunnut79]

One more thing...Should I get more sore on test than I did before my cycle. I have heard that you will not get as sore on test, but to me the muscle has to tear to get bigger.

[Panzerfaust80]

me personally, i never noticed a difference in soreness... one tell tale sign in my opinion is that as you are doing reps with weight u r normally accustomed to doing, you'll suddenly b able to do like 10-20 lbs more (depends what exercise) and rep it out, without really getting fatigued... its quite amazing, and makes u wanna keep kickin ass in the gym bc workouts are so good... plus u feel like, at the end of workout, that u couldd workout for another hour or so... Ive never done sust tho just deca and cyp...if the weight aint goin up week in and week out then the shit aint workin. (not ur weight the amount of weight u do... well i suppose ur weight also..!)

also 5"11 215 isnt super small bro.. how big exactly do u wanna get??

[gunnut79]

I would like to get to 225-230 and drop to 12% bodyfat. I have cleaned up my diet and am doing cardio as well. I have some Winny in the house, but I think I will probably substitute it for tren and and kick that off about week 8-9.

[shifty_git]

I would like to get to 225-230 and drop to 12% bodyfat. I have cleaned up my diet and am doing cardio as well. I have some Winny in the house, but I think I will probably substitute it for tren and and kick that off about week 8-9.

were you planning on adding the tren to this, your first cycle?

[gunnut79]

I was thinking about adding it in at the end for about 4-6 wks>?!>?!

[shifty_git]

dont even think about touching tren til lyour more experienced!

you will realise why i said that if you do try!

[Schmidty]

This guys new??? Lets kill him!!!!!!

[shifty_git]

This guys new??? Lets kill him!!!!!!

i claim the left thigh!! mmm bbq thigh....

[UberSteroids]

cause if she leaves ya and ya end up back on the market as an out of shape fatty, what are ya chances!!

Now that's a good one! So damn true too!

I am 25 and not married but I totally agree with that statement!

After she leaves, you looking like a fat turd, it will take ya about 2-3 years to get back, you meet another one, same stuff happens, then you are too old and weak to go another 2-3 years to get back in shape and you end up as a lonely fat turd!!

[gunnut79]

Help me out, what is wrong with a beginner using tren ? I am not trying to be a smart ace. What is the diff between a beginner using tren and an expert or intermediate user?

[Second2None]

Now that's a good one! So damn true too!

I am 25 and not married but I totally agree with that statement!

After she leaves, you looking like a fat turd, it will take ya about 2-3 years to get back, you meet another one, same stuff happens, then you are too old and weak to go another 2-3 years to get back in shape and you end up as a lonely fat turd!!

thats some funny shit

[rampage12]

so are u shooting the sust twice weekly? cause u need to do it eod or e3d for the short esters to work properly