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    Need solid advice

    Noob here and need help...stats: 27 yrs old/ 5'9"/ 208 lbs/ 15-16% bf (wondering if that is too much)/ 3 yrs lifting...have done sust, test e, adrol, winny, eq. On 2 diff cycles last year (I didnt know about this forum had I read up on here prior I would have deffinately stuck to just Test at first)...need advice for new cycle. Have test c, sust, eq, dbol , winny. For pct I have nolva, clomid, adex.

    Which one shud I run:

    Test C 500mg Ew 1-12
    Eq 500mg Ew 1-10
    pct wk 13-17
    clomid 100mg day 1 and 50 from there on
    nolva 20mg a day
    adex .25mg a day

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    Sust 500 mg Ew (250 mon/ 250 thur) 1-12
    Eq 500mg Ew 1-10
    same pct

    and should i jump start either one with dbol. Also thinking of adding clen to the pct. Sorry if I missed anything or sound like a typical noob but like I said I am a noob...oh by the way this is a great forum glad I found it.

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    If you only want the twice a week injections, stick with the Test E. Sust should be shot EOD imo.
    PCT should start two weeks after last test e shot.

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    just remembered one more thing...Im about to get some Prop...do you think that would be a better jump start then dbol ???

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    I, personally, love prop but unless you're ready and willing to shoot ED then you should def stick with the Dbol .. plus, Dbol and test act on different parts so adding test p to a test c cycle is different than adding Dbol to a test c cycle.

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    sust is test, its just a test blend...

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    i prefer sust but then again shooting ed or eod doesnt bother me.

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    Im aware sust is a blend of test...but thanks for the reply anyways...been doing some more reading here and think adding prop in the last 2 wks of the cycle are a good way to come off...that way I can start the pct right away...any thoughts on that?? wud look something like this

    dbol 30-40mg ed 1-4
    test c 500mg ew 1-10 (twice per wk)
    test prop 75-100mg eod 10-12
    start pct 2 days after last prop shot

    I have clomid, nolva, adex...can someone suggest good dosages of these I was thinking

    100mg clomid 2wks
    nolva 20mgs 4wks
    adex .25 4wks

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    bump...anyone??

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    if u only have prop for 2 weeks then i'd leave it out. cyp and dbol could be a good cycle.

    on eq, i've never used it personally but i've bros on this board say u get best results when ran 600mg/week for 16 weeks.

    if i was u, i'd just stick to cyp and dbol and save the rest of upcoming cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by soccer#3 View Post
    if u only have prop for 2 weeks then i'd leave it out.
    Quote Originally Posted by soccer#3 View Post
    cyp and dbol could be a good cycle.

    on eq, i've never used it personally but i've bros on this board say u get best results when ran 600mg/week for 16 weeks.

    if i was u, i'd just stick to cyp and dbol and save the rest of upcoming cycle
    Hes saying use the prop2come off. It actually makes the transition from cycle2PCT much more comfortable from what i understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schmidty View Post
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    Hes saying use the prop2come off. It actually makes the transition from cycle2PCT much more comfortable from what i understand.
    ^^ Yes. Using prop while waiting for the longer esters to clear makes sense to me. No down time waiting for pct to start.
    On your pct I would run the clomid at 50mg for the full 4 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schmidty View Post
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    Hes saying use the prop2come off. It actually makes the transition from cycle2PCT much more comfortable from what i understand.
    okay got it.

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    either or dont matter .. both test

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