please help!

[tdepergola18]

I have been weightlifting seriously for about 2 months now and want to tighten up but dont want to get to thick. Im 5'9'' about 195 and i am benching around 235 maxed out. i mostly work out upper body.
i am looking to do my first cycle withen the next few weeks.
can someone help me? i dont no what kind of steriods to take when doing my first cycle.
i dont wanto spend more than $200. remember im trying too look moor tight
not too get to big.i curentlee work out 2 times a day 5 days a week for about an hour each session. all my workouts are anerobic. any suggestions?

[djcj2002]

Bro, I'm not flaming, swear. But, I think one needs to workout much longer than 2 months before entering the world of aas. You also need to put in much more than 2 hrs a week in the gym to reap benefits from juice.

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Welcome.
First there are no price discussions.
How old are you?

[gixxerboy1]

steriods arent a magic pill. Also you havent been gonig to the gym long enough to see results. If you just eat right you can do what you want to do.

[tdepergola18]

Bro, I'm not flaming, swear. But, I think one needs to workout much longer than 2 months before entering the world of aas. You also need to put in much more than 2 hrs a week in the gym to reap benefits from juice.

my bad made a error. i work out 5 days a week sometime 6. i have played soccer my whole life so im not in that bad of shape. i have always worked out but not on a serious schedule like now.i just need help on my first cycle dont wanto make any mystakes

[tdepergola18]

Welcome.
First there are no price discussions.
How old are you?

18 yrs old in my senior year

[soccer#3]

2 months of weight lifting isnt enough, ur cycle is most likely gonna be a waste.

also, if ur lookin to do a real cycle eventually u gonna have to spend more than 200.

[djcj2002]

One of my brother's friend's actually asked me the same question the other day and he is in your same situation. Soccer player, good shape and 18 yo. My suggestion to him was to take advantage of his high natural test levels that he has at his age. My advice to you is to do the same.

[longhorn814]

you need to be in the gym a lot longer than 2 months to use AAS, not to mention 18 is too young to start taking them..take advantage of your natural hormone levels..learn how to eat properly for your goals..go to the diet section on here and start reading..steroids are magic that just make you huge and shredded..diet is everything and if you dont know how to eat, steroids are a waste!!

[tdepergola18]

i will be leaveing in september for basic training for the united states marine core and really want to be at best shape. i work out the most i can for the schedule i have. i just want some extra umph if that makes sense...?

[djcj2002]

Like I said before, your natural test is going to be enough to get you where you need to be esp if you start training hard now.

[tdepergola18]

i was thinkiing of taking dbol 25mg how many should i take for my first cycle

[gixxerboy1]

i was thinkiing of taking dbol 25mg how many should i take for my first cycle

bro you need to learn more. First your not ready. But even if you were Dbol is the last thing i would take for what you are trying to do

[tdepergola18]

Like I said before, your natural test is going to be enough to get you where you need to be esp if you start training hard now.

i dont understand this, im looking to get beter than i would from working out like i am now. steriods i no will help they cant be a waist like i said i cant work out moor than i do now (5 days a week). and i no these will help i have been wanting to do them for a long time now. someone please help me

[djcj2002]

Soooo true. You want to be lean and mean. You won't be able to much on your budget anyway. Bro, keep learning on here. The Corps will give you a GREAT base. You will be much closer to being ready when you get out.

[tdepergola18]

bro you need to learn more. First your not ready. But even if you were Dbol is the last thing i would take for what you are trying to do

truthfully than wut would you take.??

[soccer#3]

5'9 at 195 isnt bad. im 5'9 and 180 and i play soccer too

[gixxerboy1]

truthfully than wut would you take.??

goals

[tdepergola18]

Soooo true. You want to be lean and mean. You won't be able to much on your budget anyway. Bro, keep learning on here. The Corps will give you a GREAT base. You will be much closer to being ready when you get out.

theres no way i will take them once i get in if i get caught its jail time and disshonerable discharge thats wy i wanto now. i understand u think i shouldnt but if i wasto givven the circumestances of my schedule and goals wut would be ur opinion on wut to get ?

[soccer#3]

wit 200 i would say the only u can afford including ur pct would be some tbol. or u can go wit a low dose of test

[tdepergola18]

goals

an where might i find them?

[gixxerboy1]

truthfully than wut would you take.??

To get really lean. 80% of it is what you eat. It more important then the training. steroids for the most part doesnt burn fat.

I'm being honest. I cut pretty lean come summertime. I dont lift different. I will be on a cycle but not different stuff then i would normally use. I just EAT different

[gixxerboy1]

an where might i find them?

sorry that was a typo

[djcj2002]

If you're dead set, test only. PCT is a MUST, though. But, I'm still pretty sure you could be hard with diet and exercise. You say your routine is in check, but you diet is just as (if not more) important. Is that in check? Most kids in high school don't eat that great.

[longhorn814]

truthfully than wut would you take.??

FOOD!!

what do you eat on a daily basis? How many cals do you eat daily? How many come from pro/fat/carb? Do you even have any idea?

[tdepergola18]

wit 200 i would say the only u can afford including ur pct would be some tbol. or u can go wit a low dose of test

i was gonna get 2 bottlesof dbol for the first cycle

[gixxerboy1]

dbol is $** for 90 25mg's i was gonna get 2 bottles for the first cycle

edit your post you cant list prices here

like i said dbol is the last thing for you to take. I know your probably getting it because its the popular name

[tdepergola18]

FOOD!!

what do you eat on a daily basis? How many cals do you eat daily? How many come from pro/fat/carb? Do you even have any idea?

i eat about 3500 calories a day. i am drinking two muscle milk shakes a day one before my mid day workout one after. i work out in my school gym and eat a 30g protien bar right before. at around 10am

[gixxerboy1]

i eat about 3500 calories a day. i am drinking two muscle milk shakes a day one before my mid day workout one after. i work out in my school gym and eat a 30g protien bar right before. at around 10am

how many grams for carbs a day, fats, protien? What are your carbs. Tweaking these things can do what you want. steriods will not make you lean and have abs

[tdepergola18]

if i were to take a steriod which would be the best for me??? and whuts the best place to get it from?

[longhorn814]

i eat about 3500 calories a day. i am drinking two muscle milk shakes a day one before my mid day workout one after. i work out in my school gym and eat a 30g protien bar right before. at around 10am

so list all 3500 calories..all youve listed is about 700 calories..where do the other 2800 come from?

dbol only is terrible cycle to take for a lot of reasons and its definitely not the one you want for your goals

[djcj2002]

Nobody is going to give you a source on here, bro. It's against the rules to ask. This board in for info only.

[gixxerboy1]

if i were to take a steriod which would be the best for me??? and whuts the best place to get it from?

You cant ask where to buy them bud. I'm not trying to be on your ass but the board has rules and you wil lget banned

[soccer#3]

dbol is $80 for 90 25mg's i was gonna get 2 bottles for the first cycle

bro i said tbol not dbol. there a few orals which u can run by itself and tbol is one of them. if u can get a hold of tbol then get like 250 of them if they're dosed at 10mg per pill. dbol by itself isnt recommended

run that shit for 6 weeks at 60mg/ed. and nolva at 20mg/ed for 4 weeks for ur pct

[tdepergola18]

so list all 3500 calories..all youve listed is about 700 calories..where do the other 2800 come from?

dbol only is terrible cycle to take for a lot of reasons and its definitely not the one you want for your goals

wut would be the best first roid to take?

[djcj2002]

Bro, EDIT THAT PRICE OUT OF YOUR POST! It's against the rules to talk prices.

[gixxerboy1]

wut would be the best first roid to take?

I give up. Bro how you eat effects how you look. no what steroid to take. Some will cause you to hold less water so you dont look bloated while you are on them. If you keep eating how you are. You can take a combo of every steroid out there. Its no going to lean you up an give you abs. Sorry steroids aren't the easy umf you thought they were.

[tdepergola18]

bro i said tbol not dbol. there a few orals which u can run by itself and tbol is one of them. if u can get a hold of tbol then get like 250 of them if they're dosed at 10mg per pill. dbol by itself isnt recommended

run that shit for 6 weeks at 60mg/ed. and nolva at 20mg/ed for 4 weeks for ur pct

finally thank you very much! ok so so far ive gotten dont take dbol take tbol 60mg a day and and nolva 20mg a day for good results correct?

[soccer#3]

everyone here has given u good advise but i see u gonna disregard what everyone said and go ahead wit a cycle anyway.

here's ur cycle

week 1-6
tbol 60mg/ed

week 7-9/10
nolva 20mg/ed

[tdepergola18]

everyone here has given u good advise but i see u gonna disregard what everyone said and go ahead wit a cycle anyway.

here's ur cycle

week 1-6
tbol 60mg/ed

week 7-9/10
nolva 20mg/ed

wut if i dont take the nolva? and howlong should i take the tbol?