DBOL kick start

[in_nujerz]

I know that after oral cycles a large portion of the weight is lost my questions is what happens when it is used as a kick start will you still lose as much when lets say test cyp kicks in?

and will it increase the overall gains at the end of the cycle?

[taiboxa]

large portion of that weight is water retention. this retention was brough on by an increase in estrogen from having extra aromatization occuring. not like u piss out or sweat out your new found muscle... assuming your diet componsates for your estra lbs of LBM that you have attained.. if ur not eating atleast 50-75 extra cals per day for each lb of muscle u attained those babys are gonna go byby as soon as the anticatabolic propertie of the steroid u were using are out of your system.

adding in an oral ontop of it will increase the overall gains but have lil to w/ the drastic drop in body weight (water).

[in_nujerz]

how about, ive heard many use something like winstrol towards the end, is it because it makes gains leaner and would this help retain more muscle?

[taiboxa]

dht's help free up more test which can aid in retaining gains from cycle and help w/ recovery