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[UberSteroids]

Alright, I need to make this final plan.

I am 6'3 258Lbs @ 17%. I will cut down to about 12% before I will start my cycle.

It will be my 1st one ever. I plan on taking TEST E only.

I was thinking 500mg/week should be fine.

Week 1 to 12 - Test E 500mg/wk - one shot
Week 1 to 17 - Nolvadex 25mg/day
Week 1 to 17 - Vitamin B6 200mg/day
Week 14 to 17 - Clomid 100mg/day

Anything that will minimize acne that I could take during that time?

I have Nizoral 2% shampoo right now...but that's it.

Please review guys!
Thank a lot!

[PT]

i agree with being safe but your maybe being a little overcautious for 500mgs of test. i wouldnt even use the nolva unless your nips get tender.

[shifty_git]

id personally drop the nolva till on PCT...

and use arimidex on cycle only if needed.

plenty of showers and any cleaning product (human use of course!) that helps cut back oil on the skin..

maybe a light session on the sunbeds occasionally.

[gixxerboy1]

id personally drop the nolva till on PCT...

and use arimidex on cycle only if needed.

plenty of showers and any cleaning product (human use of course!) that helps cut back oil on the skin..

maybe a light session on the sunbeds occasionally.

I agree.

only dif is i run the armidsex i like to help keep water off

[PEWN]

i dont like the b6 just because your body becomes adjusted to having it and when you stop taking it your body reacts weird .... just from personal experience ... but every one is dif..

[NSXTC]

Man, don't worry about losing weight before your cycle. Your not so fat that it will make a difference. Your still gonna gain weight while on cycle, just eat properly and try to keep the fat gain to a minimum. Start now, eat right, come late April or May, diet, do your cardio and watch those muscles you worked so hard for pop from underneath your skin. By June will look fantastic. And I'm also from the camp that believes that leaving estrogen run rampant has little effect on gains for the average gear user. A lost pound maybe of muscle verses 7 pounds of fat/water gained??? I would rather take an AI and look normal and minimise the bloat/fat gain while on cycle. .25mg of arimidex or letro works wonders. We are not all bulking in the off season for a contest. Just my opinion.

[UberSteroids]

I see...

So if dosage of Nolvadex is 25mg/day and Arimidex only .25mg/day, that tells me that Arimidex must be 100 times more powerfull? This is why 100 times lower dose?

As far as loosing fat, the only reason why I wanted to do it is becasue I think I will gain bit extra fat and for sure water when on cycle, right?

I know I will be eating like hell.. I will rather have extra in me than not enough ya know.

So week 1-17 Arimidex .25mg/day (even just for piece of mind)

[gixxerboy1]

I see...

So if dosage of Nolvadex is 25mg/day and Arimidex only .25mg/day, that tells me that Arimidex must be 100 times more powerfull? This is why 100 times lower dose?

As far as loosing fat, the only reason why I wanted to do it is becasue I think I will gain bit extra fat and for sure water when on cycle, right?

I know I will be eating like hell.. I will rather have extra in me than not enough ya know.

So week 1-17 Arimidex .25mg/day (even just for piece of mind)

Thats what i would do

[UberSteroids]

Also, when getting the TEST E, how are they usually concentrated?

[shifty_git]

I see...

So if dosage of Nolvadex is 25mg/day and Arimidex only .25mg/day, that tells me that Arimidex must be 100 times more powerfull? This is why 100 times lower dose?

As far as loosing fat, the only reason why I wanted to do it is becasue I think I will gain bit extra fat and for sure water when on cycle, right?

I know I will be eating like hell.. I will rather have extra in me than not enough ya know.

So week 1-17 Arimidex .25mg/day (even just for piece of mind)

Yes and no...

They do different things as one is a SERM and one an AI..

Heres a link to SERM and AI definitions..

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=94545

[UberSteroids]

Thank you sir, I will read it right now.

Also, I was thinking about this product here:
3 ml luer lock syringe with 1.5" 23g hypodermic needle
For my shots.

[shifty_git]

Thank you sir, I will read it right now.

Also, I was thinking about this product here:
3 ml luer lock syringe with 1.5" 23g hypodermic needle
For my shots.

1.5" 23g or 25g is pretty much what most guys use.

[admirals56]

you could even drop the adex to .25 eod if starting at the begining of the cycle. that should be enough for water retention and will work for gyno at such low dose. do you no if your prone to gyno?

[UberSteroids]

you could even drop the adex to .25 eod if starting at the begining of the cycle. that should be enough for water retention and will work for gyno at such low dose. do you no if your prone to gyno?

No idea.

I would say yes, just because I was never ripped. I always had tits.

Ever since I started lifting I was always bulking... so I am kinda used to that.

[NSXTC]

you could even drop the adex to .25 eod if starting at the begining of the cycle. that should be enough for water retention and will work for gyno at such low dose. do you no if your prone to gyno?

I wasn't clear in my last post. This is exactly what I would do at 500mg/wk. I promise you, you will not have any estrogen issues while on cycle at that dose taking adex/letro .25mg every other day. You can hunt me down and make me pay for your gyno surgery if you do. : ) j/k. but you will be fine and not be a blow fish where everyone says, hmmm you look funny.....

[coot589]

I would split the test into two shots a week

[wilson9d]

I have Nizoral 2% shampoo? is that for acne of hair loss?

[UberSteroids]

Nizoral actually clears your skin pretty damn nicely.

There is lots of happy people that were using it.

Well then maybe I should bump up the dose to 600mg/week?

What would be benefit of 2 shots instead of one? I'll rather do one and be done with it for whole week.

[admirals56]

1 is fine

[jch3131]

I never run my Test E cycles under 750mg a week. Split it up, one on monday the other on Thurs.

[jch3131]

Nizoral actually clears your skin pretty damn nicely.

There is lots of happy people that were using it.

Well then maybe I should bump up the dose to 600mg/week?

What would be benefit of 2 shots instead of one? I'll rather do one and be done with it for whole week.

The point of splitting them is to keep your test at a steady level. You dont want your body going up then down like a roller coaster. Taking two shots a week isnt bad. I get excited when its time to inject again.

[legobricks]

The benefit to shooting twice a week is more stable blood levels. I like shooting tho, kinda gives me a rush. And jch3131 750mg a week? a bit much for a newbie 2 AAS, and not needed....diet is where most lack. Seems ubersteroids has done his research tho! congrats!

[jch3131]

Yeah I agree. After I posted and re-read and thought that was a bad idea. Guess I had a brain fart.

[UberSteroids]

I see. Makes sense.

I will probably split it then. I think 250mg every monday and thursday.

I hope I will, because I will feel most comfortable injecting there.

If it will be hurting too much I will do one shot a week.

You guys get away with shooting in quads only twice a week?

How do you guys rotate?

[legobricks]

Delts are my favorite. Ive used pecs, bi's (igf cycle), quads, lats, and traps. Ive never used glutes tho, dont know why. I rotate all except for traps, did them once and will never do again unless i have too.

[onlyme]

Cheers for the link shifty...