Cycle PCT

[kerwyn]

50 mg d-bol ED 6 wks
400 mg test cyp per wk 12 wks

what sort of pct should i look into? I have Clomid atm, take cod liver / flax oils, vit e + c. Diet is pretty spot on.

[legobricks]

http://forums.steroid.com/pct-post-cycle-therapy/

Read up.

Focus on the sticky threads up top which will give you an idea about some different PCT's.

[Big]

I agree with legobricks. Study until you can propose what you think would be a good pct, and we will help you tweak it.

[juicedapple463]

get your pct in line before you start and have it on hand as well

[kerwyn]

Well, of course I want to maximize how much of my gains while on cycle, I retain...that means keeping estrogen levels down and getting my body to crank up natural test levels!!!

this is what im lookign at for PCT, after reading the forums here:

I am ditching the Clomide...

Need I even add that the 150mgs of Clomid you need to get the hormonal increase experienced with 20mgs of Nolvadex is much more expensive? So lets dump the Clomid…and no, using it along with Nolvadex will provide no “synergy” that I’ve ever seen in any relevant study.

Because of that article's advice.

Week Nolvadex /HCG /Aromasin /Vitamin E
1 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
2 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
3 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
4 20mgs/day 20-25mgs/day
5 20mgs/day 20-25mgs/day
6 20mgs/day

Taking Vit E to boost responsiveness of plasma testosterone levels to HCG, making them significantly higher during vitamin E administration than without it. My response to estrogren increase incurred by the HCG is to take Aromasin, which ( IT SEEMS ???!!?) is synergistic with Nolvadex ..

This said, im wondering what sort of dosage of Nolva should i be taking during the cycle to keep water retention/fat storage down? 20mg ?

[legobricks]

HCG not needed for basic test cycle, its overkill. Nolva and aromasin is plenty, even without the vitamin E.

[kerwyn]

<nods> ok man, appreciate the help...its alot of information to digest and take in especially coming up on crunch time Thanks muchly ^

so...

400 ml test cyp per wk (12 weeks)
50 mg d-bol ED 6 wks

Nolva/Aromasin on hand to safeguard vs gyno on cycle..should i take L-dex or anything else, or just go raw..?

PCT:
Nolva, Aromasin & Vit E 6 wks of 20mg ED

[legobricks]

While on cycle you can use the nolva OR the aromasin . I prefer to use nolva if i see any signs/symptoms of gyno while on cycle. You only need one SERM OR one AI to comabt any estrogen related side effects while on cycle.

[kerwyn]

ok. So Nolva on hand (works for me, cheaper that way).

And, the biggest thing is of course, i want to keep my gains post cycle...i was thinkign of following Anthony's PCT, which DOES include HGC but after looking aroudn it seems it's not at all needed for a newbie cycle like mine.

I just want to get my body back into an anabolic state ASAP, lower that estrogen and kick up the naturally produced test as fast as I can - will Aromasin and Nolva do this, or SHOULD i dose some HGC in there!!