Can pro-steroids mess you up?

[PrimeTime89]

can pro steroids and pro hormones still screw your s**t up?

[legobricks]

Yes, just like steroids if not run right with proper PCT and proper ancilleries. Most people dont use them because there are very little tests for this crap and now they are banned so why settle for this crap when you can get the real thing? I tried pheraplex and that shit gave me gyno so never again will i mess with prohormones. its all junk IMO.

[PrimeTime89]

alright man i appreciate that, just thought id ask, im about to begin my first cycle but its been hard looking for a good base. my buddies that use test arnt happy with the amount of gains they keep, some of them get pretty depressed, i want to stay away from deca since im 18 and dont want to permanantly damage my HPTA, what would you reccomend.

[legobricks]

Deca , test, prohormones, dude....its all messing with your endocrine system. Your buddy's lost size/became depressed because they probably DID NOT do a proper PCT and also ate like crap. Those 2 things are the main cause why people dont retain gains/slip into depression after cycle. You are too young to even think about touching AAS. What are your current stats?

[legobricks]

alright man i appreciate that, just thought id ask, im about to begin my first cycle but its been hard looking for a good base. my buddies that use test arnt happy with the amount of gains they keep, some of them get pretty depressed, i want to stay away from deca since im 18 and dont want to permanantly damage my HPTA, what would you reccomend.

Here is my recomendation:

http://forums.steroid.com/diet-nutrition/

Do not leave that section until you have structured a proper diet for growing. (read the stickies on how to bulk and it should give you a good idea for a diet in which youll pass your friends up who are taking AAS)

[PrimeTime89]

im 5'10 190, 13% BF, been liftin consistantly for about 2 years, i have a very good diet but seeing as im a senior, i cant eat as often as i want since i am still in school. i feel like a bitch saying that. Im pretty stubborn and greedy, im just lookin for what would be best because i think im going to run a cycle soon.

[legobricks]

If you cant eat as often as you want and follow a bulking diet as suggested then you really think AAS will help you out with muscle growth?

[PrimeTime89]

alright this is the diet im on right now, been one very consistantly for about 10 weeks.
Breakfast-7 egg whites, 2 whole eggs, a cup and a half of oatmeal
lunch-8oz chicken breast with a cup of rice and nitro-tech shake
3rd meal-8oz of roast beef and a serving of leukic
4th meal-6-8oz of lean turkey breast

[PrimeTime89]

well, right now im not looking to bulk. im more focused on vascularity and hardness, i want to get into single digits.

[legobricks]

Then you need to up your cardio, and change your diet as your are no where eating enough. Steroids are not going to get you to where you want. Please do not post another thread or it will be deleted as you already have two.

[PrimeTime89]

i dont plan to post another, i just wanted to get info in one about steroids and the other about pro steroids, sorry man, take it easy.