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    Semperliftn is offline Junior Member
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    Well, I went to Cozumel!

    And scored some sus 250 (sealed with syringes seperate). I only got 10 due to how much money I had and also didn't want to seem too obvious. I know SUS isn't the best gear for the 1st time but I just want to see how it affects my my body before I try stacking etc..

    Now, I've been reading that people are using 21-15g syringes....My gear came with 20g. Are they too big?

    Is 10 enough to see any results or am I wasting my time?

    Thanks in advance

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    I take it you mean 10 amps, not vials, right?

    With sus most people recommend taking it every other day. So lets say you have 10 amps of 250mg of sus. If you want to do say 500mg of sus a week, then you have enough gear for 5 weeks, but most likely you don't have enough syringes. Some will say to do 250mg a week. So you'll have enough for a 10 week cycle.

    You'll see solid results if you are a first time user. However, you didn't list your stats (height, age, weight, diet, body fat, training and cycle history). So it is hard to tell.

    Personally, I would have gotten a little more and done a 12 week cycle of sus (which is what I did).

    20g is a little larger then what most people recommend. I personally use 23g and that is what is recommended most around here. 20g is fine, but injecting it into yourself will hurt a little more.
    Last edited by Nstart; 02-23-2008 at 12:42 PM.

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    20g is gonna hurt like a bitch imo. I dont use anything bigger than 23g. I agree with above sus needs to be shot eod to keep blood levels stable. 250mg is a very low dose for a test only cycle even for a first timer but you may still yield results if your diet is spot on. if you can, get more sus and shoot 125mg eod. If you can't then just run it at 250 ew. If your using amps your gonna need to pre load syringes to break up the dose. you definately need more needles. go to ar-r banner at the top of the page they have decent prices on darts. what do you have for your pct.

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    Ar-r has been out of syringes for a while. They only have 1x23g and 1.5x23g needles (without the syringe) in stock.

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    I use 23G and 25G , 20G would be scary.....
    My needle inventory includes...

    1.5" 23G-3ml syringes
    1" 23G-3ml syringes
    1" 25G-3ml syringes
    18G 1.5" pins if needed for drawing.

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    yes you're correct 10 amps. Can I substitute the syringe i comes with, with a smaller one? Are they interchangeable?

    I posted my stats a while back but here they are again:

    24 yo, 6'0, 190. 11% bf, been working out hard for good 7 years. As far as PCT, that was my next question. I've been doing my research but I'm getting confused with all the PCT acronyms and different kinds. Can someone jus tell me what to buy and where so it will be simple for me LOL

    Thanks again for the help. I would get more sus but I don't have local contact

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    Look at the syringes you have. Can you unscrew them? If you can, then you can most likely buy the needles from ar-r and use them.

    For a PCT, I like to use clomid, nolva, and liquidex, which are all available from ar-r. Your PCT will depend on your cycle. What are you planning to do? 250mg a week for 10 weeks, 500mg for 5 weeks, or what?

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    Honestly I don't know what should do. is 250 a week for 10 weeks enough or should I do 500 a week for 5 weeks?

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    250 for 10 weeks bro... do 125 twice a week... well technically it's probably dosed at 250/ml so 1/2 a ml every 3.5 days even though thats not how SUST should be run thats what I would do in your situation...

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    i would go with 125mgs every 3rd day.......

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    well thats basically what i was saying... but yah ....

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    I am going to Mexico later this year. I was thinking about doing the same. I'm not sure about customs though how did you get it in?

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    good question

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    Ummm...If I said how I would be compromising myself.....I didn't get checked by customs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nowdenlid View Post
    i would go with 125mgs every 3rd day.......


    But it came pre loaded....How would I split it up? Also, I only have 10 Syr's. Well 9 now, I just did 250 an hour or two ago.

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    Yeah, I understand. Did you fly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilson9d View Post
    Yeah, I understand. Did you fly?
    I can't tell you anything because it could literally ruin me, maybe some time in the future I'll let it out but right now I can't tell it on a public forum. But if you do a search for my past posts you could probably figure it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Semperliftn View Post
    But it came pre loaded....How would I split it up? Also, I only have 10 Syr's. Well 9 now, I just did 250 an hour or two ago.
    Well thats a difficult one... do they have interchangable tips?? or put em in a sterile vial and redraw em when you need to with new needles... ahhh i cant think right now... my brain hurts..... someone else will point you in the right way broski.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilson9d View Post
    Yeah, I understand. Did you fly?
    Quote Originally Posted by Nstart View Post
    Look at the syringes you have. Can you unscrew them? If you can, then you can most likely buy the needles from ar-r and use them.

    For a PCT, I like to use clomid, nolva, and liquidex, which are all available from ar-r. Your PCT will depend on your cycle. What are you planning to do? 250mg a week for 10 weeks, 500mg for 5 weeks, or what?
    I know I should have ordered some of this stuff prior to, but I've got 8 weeks before Ill start my PCT. Do I need to order all of those? I'm only goingto do 250 a week, I'll probably take DHEA also. Good idea or bad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deuce View Post
    Well thats a difficult one... do they have interchangable tips?? or put em in a sterile vial and redraw em when you need to with new needles... ahhh i cant think right now... my brain hurts..... someone else will point you in the right way broski.
    LMAO I just tried to buy some syr's from Walgreen's and they said they have to have a history of me using them to sell them. They asked what for and I said for B12, knda started looking like an ASS.

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    Thanks devil dog.

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    I'd just get a vial (i think ar&r has some) ... empty all the syringes into that then ... there are plenty of places online u can find needles... i'll look around for ya.... i think i got a couple bookmarked.. i'll get back to ya broski !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deuce View Post
    Well thats a difficult one... do they have interchangable tips?? or put em in a sterile vial and redraw em when you need to with new needles... ahhh i cant think right now... my brain hurts..... someone else will point you in the right way broski.
    Quote Originally Posted by wilson9d View Post
    Thanks devil dog.
    If this is referring to me then you are on the right track but no, I'm not a Marine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Semperliftn View Post
    If this is referring to me then you are on the right track but no, I'm not a Marine
    That’s ok not everyone can be one

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilson9d View Post
    That’s ok not everyone can be one

    Yeah you're right, but not everyone WANTS to be one either

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    Hey, I cant blame you, theres nothing wrong with knowing your limitations.

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    20g pins are way too big. That would be like a cookie cutter. Also, 5 weeks is not long enough on sust. 250mg a week for 10 weeks is a very mild cycle but you may get some gains from it. I run that dose as a maintenance. Split it up any way you want but sust is shot EOD.

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    hey guys where i am from i just walke into wal mart and some pharmacies and just ask them for what size of needles i want and they dont give me any smack about it.

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    have you tried one of your local pharmacies to get needles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by madmax1974 View Post
    have you tried one of your local pharmacies to get needles?

    Yeah they gave me a hard time (Walgreens/CVS). SC law says it's legal but they say otherwise

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilson9d View Post
    Hey, I cant blame you, theres nothing wrong with knowing your limitations.
    that was good. I'm suprised you spell so well though

    Semper Paratus

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    Quote Originally Posted by madmax1974 View Post
    hey guys where i am from i just walke into wal mart and some pharmacies and just ask them for what size of needles i want and they dont give me any smack about it.
    I pay 18 dollars for a box of 100. How much are they at WalMart?

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    Although, every marine is a r***eman, not all are enlisted r***eman.

    Always Ready, I bet you look like Ashton Kutcher!

    Oohrah.
    Last edited by wilson9d; 02-24-2008 at 04:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilson9d View Post
    Although, every marine is a r***eman, not all are enlisted r***eman.

    Always Ready, I bet you look like Ashton Kutcher!

    Oohrah.
    I bet you look like Jake Gyllenhal and a lot like in Jarhead

    HAHAHA (P.S. I am Expert R***eman as well as .50, tactical 12, and sig .40)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Semperliftn View Post
    I bet you look like Jake Gyllenhal and a lot like in Jarhead

    HAHAHA (P.S. I am Expert R***eman as well as .50, tactical 12, and sig .40)
    How do you fit those in your Speedo?

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    Does any one know what the current prices look like down in MX today? Also, what are some of the OBVIOUS signs of fake gear over there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wubba123 View Post
    Does any one know what the current prices look like down in MX today? Also, what are some of the OBVIOUS signs of fake gear over there?
    No price talk man it's not allowed here.

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    Sorry, I thought only sources were the issue. No problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wubba123 View Post
    Sorry, I thought only sources were the issue. No problem.
    Also, pretty please, stop bumping old threads. Thanks.

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