Starting 2nd cycle..quick question?

[TOOBAD]

This Monday I am starting my second cycle...woo-hoo!! It will consist of the following:

12 weeks test e 500/mg. ew (250mg mon/250mg thurs)
8 weeks tbol starting at 40mg. ed and going up
.25mg arimidex ed
milk thristle ed
multi vitamin and an aspirin ed


PCT to include clomid/nolva

Pretty simple cycle, my goal is to gain about 15-20lbs of lbm. My current status is 32 y.o., 5'7", 165lbs, and around 12% body fat (estimate). Diet is good, could be better but it is lean and will be close to 180 grams of protein daily, including my protein shakes.

My question is how and when should I take the tbol? I have access to as much as I need so I thought about starting at 4X10mg each daily and seeing how that goes. Anyone have any suggestions? Also, can I run it the whole 12 weeks if I keep getting good results or is that to much on my liver? Do I space them out throughout the day, perhaps two in the morning and two in the late afternoon?

[redz]

You need more protein than that to bulk, how many calories per day?. 12 weeks of any oral is not a good idea either.

[longhorn814]

you need at least 250-275 grams of protein/day..i wouldnt take tbol longer than 6-8 weeks either..why the adex everyday too? some estrogen is actually a good thing..

[TOOBAD]

Wow...that is a LOT of protein! So when I am not working out, I guess I will be cooking chicken breasts in the oven...my new home will be the kitchen! I guess it becomes a time management thing? Any tips?

As for the arimidex, I just wanted to make sure I keep the bloat down to a minimum, I don't want nosey coworkers or family members suggesting anything! I might wait until week 4 to start taking it though.

What if I run the TBol @ 40mg ed for the first 4-5 weeks and then @ 50mg ed for weeks 9-14? Would that work better? If anything it would make the transition in to PCT a little easier, that is always a tough time for me anyways, mentally that is!

[in_nujerz]

look man try to run the tbol for 4 to 6 weeks maximum u don't wanna do that to your liver also I doubt keeping the bloat down is gonna have people believe your gains are natural

[longhorn814]

yes if you want to build muscle..you have to eat a lot and eat often

orals are way more toxic to your body than injectable AAS..not only do they stress your liver, but they also destroy your cholesterol profile..you will have very low HDL (good cholesterol) the duration you take..thats why you dont typically take them for more than 6-8 weeks

[nowdenlid]

yep i go with 2.2 grams of protein per lb of body weight.

if your bulking i would add deca at 400-600 mgs ew you will see far better mass gain with the deca..