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    Dbol / Test E cycle.

    First time user ...want to be a freak for next f-ball season.

    5"9 1/2 199 pounds ..11 % bodyfat
    consume..between 2,000-2,500 cals a day
    Bench max - 315 pounds ..squat max- 450

    Dbol - 30 mgs ed for 4 weeks
    Test - Test e.....500mg twice a week for 10 weeks

    PCT (2 weeks after last shot) - Nolva and clomid
    nolva 40 mg ed the first two weeks , and then 2o mg ed for the following 2 weeks ..100 mg a day of clomid for 2 weeks.


    Should my pct should be changed around ?

    how much will my weight and bench press increase ? and how much will i keep?

    and i get tested in october, and im starting next week, will i be ok?

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    If your goal is to bulk, 2000-2500 kcals are far less than what you need to increase your weight.
    PCT looks ok, Test E will be detected within 3 months, so you will be safe for tests.
    Post your diet for critiques.

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    Thanks Chuck. yeh i figured id have to pack on more cals to increase my weight
    my goal is 220 pounds ..? . but im guessing a bit less after bloat?

    Meal 1
    7 egg whites , 2 regular eggs
    Turkey bacon 3 slices

    Meal 2
    Protein shake 40 g protein
    600 cals


    Meal 3
    Chicken and Rice
    or Turkey Sandwich/Tuna


    Meal 4
    Pasta and Chicken
    or Steak n Potatoes


    Meal 5
    Tuna
    Salad


    Meal 6
    Protein Shake 40g protein
    600 cals



    so maybe im closing on 3000 cals a day after all . My meal plan is basically this ....i might switch it up slightly here and there...i consume around 120 g's of protein a day..not sure how many charbs ..keep the fat real low.

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    ?? anyone else have some input .

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    ??????????

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    add a cup of oats to meal 1 everyday, add some brown rice to meal 5 too..what does your PWO nutrition consist of (i.e. what do you eat right after working out)? Actually i would add some good carbs to every meal (oats, sweet potatoes, brown rice) You should try and consume at least 300 grams of protein/day..trying to get as much as possible from food rather than shakes, however thats not always possible or the most convenient either

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    thanks for more input longhorn really appreciate it , yeh its kinda hard to add more protiein in there without the shakes but il shall try.....post workout ..would be like meal 4....how much good weight can i put on ? after cycle .

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    How old are you?
    You might want to pump up your Test to 12 weeks for the best results.
    Have some AI one hand just incase

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    Your gonna want to double your cal. intake. Dbol is a bulking agent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rando911 View Post
    Your gonna want to double your cal. intake. Dbol is a bulking agent.
    He is using it more as a kicker.
    Oh I forgot to mention to you might also want to up your dbol to 40mg per day

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    doubling my cal intake to 6,000 ? ..wow thats going to be ridicilously hard..................i can prob do 40mg a dbol a day ...but my dbol only comes 100 in a bottle . .and you really think 12 weeks , is that much better then 10 of test e ? does it make that much of a difference ?

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    ? anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreakofNature23 View Post
    doubling my cal intake to 6,000 ? ..wow thats going to be ridicilously hard..................i can prob do 40mg a dbol a day ...but my dbol only comes 100 in a bottle . .and you really think 12 weeks , is that much better then 10 of test e ? does it make that much of a difference ?
    Yes read my cycle log and ranas. You will do better at twelve weeks. You dbol kicker should be 40mg at 199 lbs. I would run you dbol 40 mg for 4 weeks. Do it right for max results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreakofNature23 View Post
    doubling my cal intake to 6,000 ? ..wow thats going to be ridicilously hard..................i can prob do 40mg a dbol a day ...but my dbol only comes 100 in a bottle . .and you really think 12 weeks , is that much better then 10 of test e ? does it make that much of a difference ?
    6000 IMO is a waste of food. You're not a pro and do not weigh 260 lbs...
    So, at least 3000-3500 kcals/day is my advice.
    But more important: you said 120g pro a day???
    They have to be at least 300gr/day, about 40% of your cals to bulk.

    CL

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    I found that I neede to go from 3500 cal to 4500 at my sixth week. That's just me thou

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    Quote Originally Posted by dupa95 View Post
    I found that I neede to go from 3500 cal to 4500 at my sixth week. That's just me thou
    What do you mean I need?
    Just interested because I'd want to make a diet mid-cycle change too.

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    I meaning me. I did not gain any weight last week so I increased again. But on the whole I am up 14 lbs in 6 weeks. not bad

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